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Why Wasn't WWII Hero Guy Gabaldon Given the Medal of Honor?
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NEW YORK, Feb. 21 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Who was the 5' 4" dynamo who, in military history, sits somewhere between Sergeant York and Audie Murphy? Hailed the "Pied Piper of Saipan," Guy Gabaldon accomplished the impossible by single-handedly capturing 1500 Japanese prisoners. Never in the history of the United States military had one man captured that many of the enemy.

Guy, of Hispanic descent, grew up in East Los Angeles and as a youngster became close friends with a number of Japanese-American families that helped raise him. Through his close relationships with the Japanese, he learned their language, culture and customs. Little did he know then how his upbringing and street knowledge would help him to become an American hero -- while simultaneously saving so many "enemy" lives.

When Pearl Harbor was attacked, Gabaldon's close Japanese-American friends were all shipped to internment camps. Doing what he felt was what his family expected of him, he joined the Marines. Even though he was under regulation height and had a perforated ear drum, his knowledge of some Japanese language and culture, secured him a place in the intelligence section of the 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division.

During the battle of Saipan, the U.S. lost 4,000 Marines and Army personnel. Against orders, Gabaldon would travel by himself into enemy territory, use a few salty slang Japanese words and capture prisoners. Two here, three there, until one day in July 1944, he grabbed 800 prisoners. But these were not only military -- they were also civilians -- women and children, who, if not for Guy, would have been killed as casualties of war. His weapon was not his military tool, but his compassion and straight-forward Japanese words convincing them to come with him for safety. Some of them were even Japanese Imperial Marines who were told by Tokyo to never surrender.

For those who have seen the original 1960 film, "Hell To Eternity" in which Guy's story is told, they would have thought Guy was a blue-eyed Caucasian since he was portrayed by poster boy American actor Jeffrey Hunter.

When the movie was originally released the U.S. Marine Corps honored Guy with their highest decoration, the Navy Cross, but the Medal of Honor was still held back. Today, a number of people -- senators, congresspersons, civic leaders, civilians and military would like to see this justice corrected. Now Americans get to have their say in petitioning the government to award Guy the medal.

By simply going to getguythemedal.com, those who believe Guy should have received the Medal of Honor can sign the petition to award Guy the honor he should have received sixty years ago.

And for those interested in learning more about Guy's story, they can also visit getguythemedal.com to pre-order a copy of the documentary The Untold True Story of Guy Gabaldon.

Why Wasn't WWII Hero Guy Gabaldon Given the Medal of Honor? - Yahoo! News
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Default Re: Why Wasn't WWII Hero Guy Gabaldon Given the Medal of Honor?

Only one question: how many witnesses were there to Guy's Actions? To earn the Medal of Honor there must be at least two confirmed witnesses of the act, not counting the recipient.

Besides the witness thing, I believe that he should win the Medal of Honor for something like this, especially the part about saving the civilians. Thanks for posting this, very interesting.
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Default Re: Why Wasn't WWII Hero Guy Gabaldon Given the Medal of Honor?

That's the way it goes sometimes.
I'm never that comfortable with retrospective calls for Gallantry decorations, there's a similar campaign on for Paddy Mayne & a VC, likely well deserved but it seems odd to me to attempt to 'correct' the judgements of the day regarding individuals.

Many deserving men must have died alone in the sky, at sea, or in some hole in the ground that deserved VCs, MoHs, etc. but they're no more open to 'correction' than this chap. (That's why the Unknown Soldier's decoration means a great deal to me, a symbolic salute to all those men.)

Interesting on the campaign website:
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that they appear to be asking for the Congressional Medal of Honor, I thought that was incorrect terminology?

I should perhaps add that I see the pushes for Campaign medals like Bomber Command and the convoys as a different issue to this retrospective awarding of gallantry awards. I have no problem with that process as it's attempting to recognise an entirely different kind of issue.

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You are correct in that it isn't the "Congressional" Medal of Honor. Its just the Medal of Honor. I wonder if any of the prisoners or civilians that he captured are still alive? Those would be witnesses I would say.
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I've always believed that he deserved the MoH. The same thing goes for Dorie "Doris" Miller. I've always believed that he too, deserved the MoH. HIs actions @ Pearl Harbor as well as Iron Bottom Sound - off Guadalcanal, to me, rated more than just a DSC. Doris lost his life in battle in one of the many naval night engagements off Guadalcanal.

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For all those of you who live in the UK, does this kind of thing happen like it does here (not with the MoH, but the Victoria Cross)?
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Interesting on the campaign website:
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that they appear to be asking for the Congressional Medal of Honor, I thought that was incorrect terminology?
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You are correct in that it isn't the "Congressional" Medal of Honor. Its just the Medal of Honor. I wonder if any of the prisoners or civilians that he captured are still alive? Those would be witnesses I would say.
I hate that "Congressional" part hung on the front. It is added because the medal is presented by the President on behalf of Congress.
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I hate that "Congressional" part hung on the front. It is added because the medal is presented by the President on behalf of Congress.
Yeah. I hate it too. And some people just cant understand that.
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I think being of Hispanic decent may have been a factor. Racial relations were not that good back then. Also a factor for Mr Miller. In the 40's and 50's you had to be white anglo saxon male protestant to be somebody. (wasp) Higher up officers tended not to like non whites.

I am guessing class distinction had something to do with who got the VC. Officers tended to be upper crust.

I am not saying it is right, but that was the culture back then.
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I think being of Hispanic decent may have been a factor. Racial relations were not that good back then. Also a factor for Mr Miller. In the 40's and 50's you had to be white anglo saxon male protestant to be somebody. (wasp) Higher up officers tended not to like non whites.

I am guessing class distinction had something to do with who got the VC. Officers tended to be upper crust.

I am not saying it is right, but that was the culture back then.
I think that is one of the problems with some people today. They don't realize it was a almost totally different mindst back then. And they try to use our modern values,morals and views to understand what it was like back then.
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I hate that "Congressional" part hung on the front. It is added because the medal is presented by the President on behalf of Congress.

According to the Official Medal of Honor Society website, placing the word: "Congressional" in front of MoH, is wrong.
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I believe the VC was was specifically instituted as a 'Classless' medal, available to all ranks. Looking at it's awards it certainly doesn't seem to have been concentrated on officers in any way.

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Should WWII Marine get Medal of Honor?

Hispanic private coaxed 1,000 Japanese to surrender on Saipan

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As an 18-year-old Marine private, Guy Gabaldon single-handedly persuaded more than 1,000 Japanese soldiers to surrender in the World War II battle for Saipan.

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MIAMI - Armed but alone, Marine Pfc. Guy Gabaldon roamed Saipan's caves and pillboxes, persuading enemy soldiers and civilians to surrender during the hellish World War II battle on the island.
Using the Japanese language skills he learned as a boy, he warned the Japanese they would die if they stayed hidden and told them Marines were not torturers as they had heard. The Marines, he said, would feed them and give them medical care. Many agreed, and Gabaldon, just 18, led them back to U.S. lines.
By the battle's end, Gabaldon had coaxed more than 1,000 Japanese out of the steamy caves. He was praised as being brave and compassionate, and he received a Silver Star — later upgraded to a Navy Cross. His actions were recounted on television and in movies.
Now, almost two years after his death, there is a renewed campaign to give Gabaldon the Medal of Honor, the nation's highest military award. A new documentary, "East L.A. Marine," asks whether Gabaldon's Hispanic heritage prevented him from receiving the medal, though others blame his tough and outspoken nature.
Critics question whether Gabaldon deserves the medal, saying his feats do not measure up to those of others on Saipan.
"It's a much bigger issue than any of us realize," said Steve Rubin, who directed the documentary, which will be available online May 6. "Guy is a symbol not only of a hero in war, but a man who treated people humanely. He killed people, sure, but having grown up essentially as a Japanese, he treated them as human beings."
The Battle for Saipan
Growing up in the Boyle Heights neighborhood of Los Angeles, Gabaldon became close with a Japanese-American family and made friends with Japanese boys. He also picked up the language as he delivered Japanese newspapers and picked crops with Japanese-Americans.
After Japan attacked Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, more than 100,000 people of Japanese heritage, including Gabaldon's friends, were sent to internment camps.
"He got very upset when the government put the Japanese in concentration camps," said his second wife, Ohana Gabaldon, who lives in Old Town in central Florida.
Gabaldon joined the Marines in 1943, becoming a scout observer and interpreter, and hit the shore of Saipan in the Northern Mariana Islands on June 15, 1944.
Combat was often in close quarters in jungles and caves, and more than 3,200 Americans and 23,800 Japanese were killed, according to a 1994 Marine Corps pamphlet, "Breaching the Marianas: The Battle for Saipan."
Civilians, some prisoners of Japanese soldiers, hid in caves. They included women and children, and were hungry and suffering from shell shock, leprosy, dengue fever. Fearing the Americans, Japanese civilians blew themselves up with grenades or jumped off cliffs.
Ventured behind enemy lines
Gabaldon did his share of killing, but one day he ventured alone behind enemy lines and brought back a group of Japanese prisoners. Gabaldon was scolded by his commander, Col. John Schwabe, but went out alone again and returned with more Japanese.
Satisfied, Schwabe let Gabaldon continue.
"He would go up to the mouth of that cave and jabber, jabber, jabber, and pretty soon somebody would dribble out," Schwabe said in the documentary.
Eventually, Gabaldon had rounded up 1,000 to 1,500 Japanese — including a purported 800 in one day.
"Through his efforts, a definite humane treatment of civilian prisoners was insured," according to a Marine Corps document detailing Gabaldon's credentials for a Silver Star.
Interviewed in the documentary, Gabaldon discussed his motivation.
"Being raised in the barrio, every day is a fight," Gabaldon said. "You're fighting to survive in the barrio and I think that might have had something to do with my personality, my makeup. I knew I was doing something that had never been done in World War II."
Gabaldon was wounded in January 1945 and evacuated to a hospital, according to the document provided by the Marine Corps History Division.
Schwabe said in a 1960 letter that there was confusion after Saipan over who was responsible for recommending Gabaldon for the Medal of Honor.
A push for the Medal of Honor
In June 1957, he was featured on the TV show "This is Your Life." Two Japanese friends also appeared.
In 1960, "Hell to Eternity" was released, starring Jeffrey Hunter, who clearly was not Hispanic and at 6 feet tall looked nothing like 5-foot, 4-inch Gabaldon.
"That part of him is completely obliterated ... people who are familiar with this issue are really appalled by that," said Maggie Rivas-Rodriguez, a University of Texas journalism professor who interviewed Gabaldon and hundreds of other men and women of the World War II generation.
However, the film started a push for the Medal of Honor and Schwabe officially recommended him for the honor. In December 1960, the Pentagon upgraded Gabaldon's Silver Star to a Navy Cross, but the Medal of Honor never came.
'Marine first, and then Guy'
Gabaldon, who eventually settled in Florida, suffered a stroke in the late 1990s but never mellowed or abandoned his love for fishing and other adventures, his wife said. He died in September 2006 at age 80.
Gabaldon's wife said he talked about racism he experienced as a serviceman. But Gabaldon never lost his love for the Marines: "He was a Marine first, and then Guy," Ohana Gabaldon said.
However, he was hurt that he never learned why he hadn't gotten the Medal of Honor, leading him and others to wonder whether his ethnicity played a part, his wife said.
"Nobody came up with the truth," Ohana Gabaldon said. "I guess what Guy wanted to hear from the Marine Corps is that `We goofed.' He told me he wasn't going to see the Medal of Honor in his lifetime."
The documentary compares Gabaldon's exploits to others who did win the Medal of Honor, such as the Army's Audie Murphy, the most decorated soldier in World War II.
In the film, narrator Freddie Prinze Jr. asks: "What caused this inequity? Was it because Guy Gabaldon was of Hispanic heritage? Was it because he had a big mouth and wasn't afraid to say what he felt?"
University of the South professor Harold J. Goldberg said in his book "D-Day in the Pacific: The Battle of Saipan" that some Marines estimated that Gabaldon captured only about half of the number he claimed.
Marine Sgt. David Dowdakin said in the book that while Gabaldon had advocates, "the rest of us think he is an importuning glory seeker who is playing the race card. But, then, the two traits often go together: bravery and glory seeking."
Capt. Amy Malugani, a Marines spokeswoman, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that the Marines are precluded from discussing whether any individual has been recommended for a medal.
'Opportunity to right a wrong'
But Malugani also said the Secretary of the Navy is reviewing of the service records of each Jewish and Hispanic-American veteran who won the Navy Cross for actions during World War II, the Korean and Vietnam wars, and Operation Desert Storm, to determine if any should be awarded the Medal of Honor.
Gabaldon's widow said politics could be involved in the decision.
"We're becoming not so much a minority anymore," said Ohana Gabaldon, who is of Japanese and Mexican descent. "Maybe this is the time that the Latino vote counts, what Washington cares about so much.
"They can take the opportunity to right a wrong and be aware of what Latinos have done for this country."

Medal of Honor for WWII Marine? - Military - MSNBC.com
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