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If they changed the Iron Cross medal to something else we might as well change the English VC while we are at it, I say
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Default Re: Germany scraps new Iron Cross

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You Ozzies have your own now.
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So it's not the "English VC" for your Armed Forces.

The Canadians have their own too with Pro Valore in Latin instead of For Valour, as Canada is bi-lingual.
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You Ozzies have your own now.
Australian Victoria Cross Winners
Victoria Cross For Australia.

Victoria Cross for Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So it's not the "English VC" for your Armed Forces.

The Canadians have their own too with Pro Valore in Latin instead of For Valour, as Canada is bi-lingual.
Victoria Cross (Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
You are very right, I meant we as in an overall change not just as a singular nation changing it, I already have a listing of all victoria cross winners throughout all Australian conflicts, thankyou anyway
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Default Re: Germany scraps new Iron Cross

This looks to me a lot like trying to discuss communism. You have two things going on, the public opinion held by many many people and generally incorrect and the truth, known to far fewer and generally not believed. Sadly that's how it works.

Whether the Iron Cross SHOULD be associated with the Nazis etc is immaterial, the fact remains that in the minds of the majority it is and therefore can't really be used. The only way to change that would be a massive re-education program within Germany itself which would go down like a giant silver balloon!

What I can't understand is why people oppose the principle of rewarding soldiers with medals that aren't associated with Hitler et al (I'd vote for the WW1 era 'military merit cross,' very nice.)

It does go to show though how successful the Germans were at taking iconic German symbols and tying them in with Nazism for all time.
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I personaly think that it is dumb because there was an Iron Cross before the Nazis and it should still be around
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