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Old April 17th, 2008, 01:13 AM
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German prosecutor charges 'hitman' over Nazi-era killings
  • BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- An 86-year-old man who acted as a hitman for a Nazi death squad that executed Dutch civilians during World War II has been charged with three counts of murder, a prosecutor said Wednesday.
Heinrich Boere, a member of a Waffen SS death squad, is accused of murdering Dutch civilians during WWII.





Dortmund prosecutor Ulrich Maass told The Associated Press he had charged Heinrich Boere with the 1944 murders of three men as a member of the Waffen SS death squad code-named Silbertanne, or Silver Pine.
The AP was first to report last month that Maass had quietly reopened the case against Boere in a last attempt to bring him to justice.
Boere was convicted of the same three murders in the Netherlands in 1949 and sentenced to death -- later commuted to life imprisonment -- but has managed to escape jail so far.
The son of a Dutch man and German woman, Boere was 18 when he joined the Waffen SS -- the fanatical paramilitary organization faithful to Hitler's ideology -- at the end of 1940, only months after his country had fallen to the Nazi blitzkrieg.
After taking part in the invasion of the Soviet Union, he ended up back in the Netherlands as part of Silbertanne, a Waffen SS death squad composed mostly of Dutch volunteers tasked with killing fellow countrymen in reprisal for attacks by the anti-Nazi resistance.
The unit is suspected of 54 killings, and Boere has admitted to taking part in three, according to Dutch court documents.
Boere detailed the killings in statements to Dutch police preserved in the court file.
The first was in July 1944, a pharmacist named Fritz Hubert Ernst Bicknese.
The next two came that September: first bicycle-shop owner Teun de Groot then, later the same day, a man named F.W. Kusters, about whom the files say little.
Reflecting on that day, Boere told the Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad in 2007 that "it was another time, with different rules."
He recalled ringing de Groot's doorbell and asking him for his papers.
"When we knew for sure we had the right person, we shot him dead, at the door," he said. "I didn't feel anything, it was work. Orders were orders, otherwise it would have meant my skin. Later it began to bother me, now I'm sorry."
The murder charges were filed Tuesday with the state court in Aachen, a city in western Germany on the Netherlands border, Maass said.
It was not immediately clear when Boere would be brought to trial, and his attorney, Gordon Christiansen, said he would remain living at his old-age home in Eschweiler, near Aachen, while the process was under way.
Christiansen would not comment on the charges, saying he had not yet seen the official documents.
But he said that one of his first actions would be to file a motion with the court to determine whether Boere was fit to stand trial.
"I'm no doctor, I can't say myself," Christiansen told the AP. "It also depends on how long it takes for this process to begin; one must see."
The Netherlands, where he was convicted in 1949, has sought Boere's extradition but a German court in 1983 refused on the ground that he might have German citizenship, and Germany at the time had no provision to extradite its nationals.
A state court in Aachen ruled in 2007 that Boere could legally serve his sentence in Germany but an appeals court in Cologne overturned the ruling months later, saying the 1949 conviction was invalid because Boere was unable to present a defense.
It was after that ruling Maass quietly reopened the case, effectively beginning from scratch to bring the case back to court for trial.
Boere is among more than 1,000 cases worldwide which the Nazi-tracking Simon Wiesenthal Center says were still open as of April 1, 2007.

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What gets me, is that he openly admits to doing it, and yet, he is almost 100% unrepentant.The more I learn about WWII, the more it astounds me that so many people could be lead to become such a vicious machine.
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AP NewsBreak: No trial for Nazi hit man in Germany - Yahoo! News

A German court ruled Wednesday that an elderly former Nazi hit squad member is medically unfit to stand trial for the World War II reprisal killings of three Dutch civilians.

Defense attorney Gordon Christiansen told The Associated Press that Heinrich Boere, 87, suffered a serious heart condition and could not take the stress of a trial. He said Boere had "almost died" twice since being charged in April.

"This is absolutely based upon medical facts," Christiansen told The AP.

Aachen state court spokesman Georg Winkel said in a statement that the decision was based on a thorough two-day medical exam of Boere.
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After he volunteered to follow orders, that is.
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German court rules Nazi suspect fit for trial - Yahoo! News

Admitted Nazi hit man Heinrich Boere will stand trial for murder in Germany for the execution-style killings of three Dutch civilians during World War II, a court ruled Tuesday after years of legal wrangling.

A Cologne appeals court ruled that the 88-year-old is fit for trial despite medical problems, overruling a lower court's decision this year.

Dortmund prosecutor Ulrich Maass, who brought the charges against Boere, said that no more appeals were possible.

"This is very positive news," he told The Associated Press.

Boere's attorney, Gordon Christiansen, said he had no immediate comment.
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The man is already dying, what could they possibly do to make him pay for his crimes?
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Execute his old rumpled ass!
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Nazi hit man goes on trial in Germany - Yahoo! News

Heinrich Boere has admitted to gunning down three men as part of a Waffen SS death squad — civilians killed in retribution for partisan attacks in Holland as the tide of World War II turned against the Nazis.

But for more than six decades after the war, he managed to avoid punishment — first escaping from a prisoner of war camp in the Netherlands, then successfully eluding the courts in Germany.

On Wednesday, the 88-year-old goes on trial at the state court in Aachen, charged with three murders — hits on a bicycle-shop owner, a pharmacist and another civilian.

Boere has refused to speak with The AP, but in 2007 told the Algemeen Dagblad he regretted the killings.

In comments to the newspaper, he described ringing de Groot's doorbell and asking him for his papers.

"When we knew for sure we had the right person, we shot him dead, at the door," he said. "I didn't feel anything, it was work. Orders were orders, otherwise it would have meant my skin. Later it began to bother me. Now I'm sorry."
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The man admitted what he did, and doesn't seem to be too repentant. Let the courts and justice prevail. I hope they find him guilty. In the words of William Gladstone, "Justice delayed is justice denied".
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