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April 26th, 2008, 05:31 PM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
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..not only that..but the 'Mail' article quite clearly goes on to state that the reality of life in occupied France had little to do with the bucolic scenes here..70,000 Jews deported, more than a million Frenchmen sent to Germany under the STO..etc etc. No 'cavalier' attitude there...
..and FWIW even French authors write books entitled 'Les beaux jours des collabos..'
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Not sure why the author chose to even bring this up, as
1-The STO has nothing to life in occupied Paris at his time, and
2-The STO began in summer of 1942, long after these images were taken.
In fact, at the time these images were taken, hardly anyone had been deported from France, whether they were Jews or STO deportees. How does this compare with images taken in Paris in 1943 or 1944? Indeed, "Oh what a lovely war" is a very inaccurate and misleading description.
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April 26th, 2008, 06:21 PM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
a small note to the usual photos
these photos are available at the veteranen fotoalbum
Concern is:
how many French soldiers KIa WW II ?
how many french killed by partisanen france ?
(resistance 44-45 )
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If the French nation in that time have united in anything, then not in the resistance, but "in their relief, no longer participate in the war,"
under the "spontaneous purges" approximately 10000 people [110] without any legal basis [111] murdered. This dark side of the coin is part of the history of the Resistance.
in the decade from 1958 to 1968, when de Gaulle for the second time at the head of the French state was, it is a veritable cult Resistance observed.
"Here rests Georges Mandel, murdered by the French enemy on 7 July 1944, "is there at the memorial.
ok ? translate this ....:::: ( please)
Hausarbeiten.de: Die Résistance francaise - Mythos oder Wirklichkeit? - Hauptseminararbeit. Seminararbeiten, Diplomarbeiten, Magisterarbeiten, Referate - Hausarbeit, Referat, Diplomarbeit oder Magisterarbeit veröffentlichen!
a nice hobby - History  
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April 26th, 2008, 06:56 PM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
Domherr could you provide a link for the Zucca pictures at Veteranen album ? I went on the site and launched a search but did not find the pictures.
Your source would be interesting to read (with the complete context, not just a few chosen sentences) but may I take this thread back to the original topic?
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April 26th, 2008, 07:36 PM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
The Historical Library of the City of Paris has about 270 colour photographs of sensational Zuccas now for the first time there - and a storm of indignation triggered. The review was described as "Nazi propaganda" insults, the Paris mayor cultural advertising was set for visitors were in a hurry all the explanatory text table at the entrance and set up appropriate flyers printed.
Paris unterm Hakenkreuz - in Farbe - einestages
The number of visitors in the otherwise rather quiet Bibliothèque historique of the city in the historic Marais district is still enormous - or precisely because of the controversy. The fact that life under the "occupation" for most French people not so simple in the two categories of collaboration and resistance is the other categories, is for historians are not really new.
auftragsgemäß the jolly life of Paris during the German occupation in aesthetically geglättetem black and white. Through its good relations with the Germans, he came to the rare Agfacolor films and could in his spare Paris in color down. Zucca even saw itself as an apolitical, but after the liberation of the French capital by the Allies was erim October 1944 but arrested as a collaborator. 
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April 26th, 2008, 07:40 PM
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April 26th, 2008, 08:00 PM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
Thanks Domherr: I checked the Spiegel pictures: unfortunately they were the ones I had already seen on the other links. Apparently the International press have all the same eight or ten pictures. I hope to find more different ones.
The essay is a bit long. I will read it on a rainy day and when I'm done I'll glady discuss this over in another topic.
I don't need a translation: Ich spreche Deutsch. 
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April 26th, 2008, 08:20 PM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
I have in my collection some pictures from France.
interest at some point I can.
many interviews with veteranen!
always a smile on time
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April 26th, 2008, 09:57 PM
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April 26th, 2008, 10:00 PM
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Nice Domherr. You mean war pictures or modern pictures Paris? Do you have interviews of soldiers who were based there?
thanks for the link Wessex. I just saw it. There is a book available for 35€ with 200 picutres of the 270.
Paris Bibliotheques : livres, expositions, editions, publications, animations
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April 27th, 2008, 05:05 AM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
You mean war pictures or modern pictures Paris?
pictures of france campaign are not uncommon.
also pictures taken by the time 1940-43.
(I think they are for little money at ebay)
(black+white)
modern pictures, I have too.
I worked in paris times, for weeks.
(Surplus Shop)
Do you have interviews of soldiers who were based there?
because I always like to speak with veterans.
I have many calls in memory.
France was for many a beautiful memory.
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April 27th, 2008, 06:15 AM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
Yes I have some pictures from WWII Paris, but I am acually more interested in the airforce , so I only have a few. I buy some from time to time, but they are often pictures of the touristic sites. I prefer buying deathcards (Sterbebilder) and aircraft pictures.
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April 28th, 2008, 10:21 AM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
I believe France would be a much pleasanter posting than the Ostfront, no doubt there.
Even if it became not so pretty later.
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April 28th, 2008, 02:24 PM
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
No doubt about that, Paris was a Paradise compared to the Ostfront, but this of course was a German point of view: Wie Gott in Frankreich , as the saying goes. However if asked to the civilians, including some of those you see on these pictures (Belleville, Marais) this was more like Hell, or a gateway to Hell.
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Re: New photos of Occupied Paris
Nice links Miguel.
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