More Pain in Spain

Three weeks ago, Al Quaeda bombed Madrid, and the Spanish elected a Socialist government in a knee-jerk reaction. This new government agreed to withdraw Spanish troops from Iraq.
Today, another massive bomb was discovered on a high-speed railway line in Spain-AFTER the terrorists had already got their way. No proof it was Al Quaeda again, but now they've succeeded in scaring the government round to their way of thinking, expect a free-for-all from every two-bit bunch of misfit sociopaths.
Hands up anyone who didn't see this one coming a mile off.........

Regards,

Gordon

 

Extremists won't ever give up until they're all extremely dead...

 

Sad but true, unfortunately

Regards,

Gordon

 

The opposition in Spain made no secret (in advance of any bombing) that it was against the use of their troops in Iraq. They were elected by the voters. They intend to carry out their promise to disengage. It is called democracy and the lying previous administration suffered because it took part in a conflict opposed by the majority of the population.
There is no direct link between the bombing and the policy of the incoming administration so the conclusions you draw are wrong.
However if you are saying the Spanish electorate are caving in to terrorism you should clearly enunciate your views instead of blaming the Socialists.

 

The elections took place days after the Madrid bombings, so to claim there's no proven cause and effect is ludicrous.
It's a Socialist government running the country, not the electorate. Therefore, the buck stops with the government.

[ 02. April 2004, 01:14 PM: Message edited by: The_Historian ]

 

I repeat it was a policy of theirs prior to the bombing. Their is no link to their policy being a response to the bombing. If it is clearly a manifesto issue prior to the bombing how on earth can it be said to be a response to the bombing? Democracy means accepting the result and like it or not and the people of Spain have given the clearest answer yet when asked if they wished to continue with the previous administrations aggression. Truly the buck stopped with the Right!

 

A left-wing government caves into terrorists, but it's all the right's fault?!
Is there a point to your being in these forums, other than to hijack other people's threads for your own twisted ends?
Enough's enough.

[ 03. April 2004, 05:23 AM: Message edited by: The_Historian ]

 

You are too sensitive. I did not hijack anything and this a public message board. Nothing in my post is offensive in any way nor did I insult you. How can simply not agreeing with your views be a problem for you?

Quote:

"A left-wing government caves into terrorists, but it's all the right's fault?"

I never said any such thing but simply that if the new Government had this policy clearly stated in its manifesto then any attempt to say it is a response to the bombing is absurd.
The people of Spain made their choice and there is one less in the 'Coalition Of The Conned'

 

mkenny, "expert" at it again.

 

[ 02. April 2004, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: framert ]

 

Again your post is gratuitous and offers nothing constructive. Perhaps you and your buddy should realise you do not own this forum. How is it that simply not seeing things your way provokes such a strong and dismissive response? The pair of you should seriously consider some of the excellent anger management courses available. What fragile egos!

 

Please, kids! Cut the crap off!

Teenagers in a Montessori-system school beahve better...

 

Do I have to edit again or delete this whole stinking thread ?

on a better note maybe I should go ahead and delete every silly post in the FFZ and the FFZ altogether. Why don't U guys post under the other forum headers ?

two year olds at it again............geez !

 

Goo goo gaa gaa

 

Gentlemen, a plea....

These Forums at this time need support , not mudslinging.

I'll be the first to agree that there are many things in this far-from-perfect world which are worthy of debate and opinion-sharing and right now the crisis of terrorism is probably top of the list.

But such discussions are not contributing to harmonious discussion on this forum - in fact, they are destructive.

Can we stick to WWII for the time being ?

 

A few weeks ago I watched as the threads on terrorism started sprouting over here. However it soon became obvious that these threads were being used to post some of the most offensive language aimed at Moslems in general. Some posters were even swearing and using grossly abusive descriptions such as 'towel heads' in their posts yet were not being cautioned for their excesses. Other posters used the excuse to start bashing 'Left Wingers' and I just thought I would point this out and add some form of defence for those who think like me. Again no one seemed to mind and it quickly got ugly as some posters seemed to resent the fact that not everyone saw the world they way they did. Just daring to challenge their assumptions induced the most terrible rage in them and they 'flipped' losing it big style.
Tough for them. If you want to post strongly worded criticism of your political opponents then accept that you will recieve the same in return.
As long as they are allowed to post in this manner I will reply and attempt to correct their misconceptions.
If they don't like the heat....................

 

Strange that m kenny's so desperate to defend muslims that he's just appointed himself their official spokesman, after just spending an entire thread attempting to rubbish christianity.
Like I said, a past master at hijacking threads for his own twisted reasons.

 

Although I do not moderate this thread, I am a moderator on this site.

I tried to say it nicely, but...

DROP IT.

 

Your post perfectly illustrates my point.
I do not defend Muslims nor do I rubbish Christianity. The thread you are refering to draws attention to historical inacurracy in the New Testament. These problems are admitted by the General who is (I believe) a devout Christian. He had no problems dealing with them and he entered into a sensible debate on the subject. He and I both agree their are problems in the NT dating of events. You did not seem to grasp what we were talking about and posted a blatant untruth. You have still to explain why you will not admit you simply misread two very similar names and said the were the same man. Will you now admit this mistake?
Anyway it is your right-wing bias that causes you the most trouble!

[ 03. April 2004, 04:46 AM: Message edited by: m kenny ]

 

"As a christian, you obviously believe that muslims, jews, hindus etc are wrong".
Note the word "obviously" in YOUR quote from the "problem of evil" thread. There was an allusion in the next sentence to those groups seeing christianity as "equally alien", but no reference to it being "obvious".
Not only are you a hypocrite, the fact you refuse to recognise it proves my point.

"Anyway its your right wing bias which causes you the most trouble!"

And your political neutrality is the reason you throw a tantrum every time someone dares to mention left wingers, of course?

I've already addressed your literacy problems in the other thread-I don't intend repeating myself here.

[ 03. April 2004, 05:19 AM: Message edited by: The_Historian ]