Sturmpanzer IV: Brummbär

Consider yourself shot!

You too!

Now, [trying desperately to get this thread back on track], is there anyone out there that can clue me in on the crew positions in the Brumbär?

ie - what did Guy #5 do?

-whatever

-Lou

 

The only two I've read about are their use in Normandy and the Ardennes. In both the vehicles were employed pretty much exclusively as self-propelled artillery and not as either direct fire support or urban assault vehicles.
Their first action was at Kursk. While not well known there they were used in a support role with the two Elefant battalions on the north flank. Since there was little, if anything approaching, urban combat they were once again basically self-propelled artillery.
On the whole, I suspect that the whole idea was basically a waste of material as the much lighter GW 38 series performed the same job at less cost.

 

Does any one know what museum (I hope) or person this belongs to? Simply stunning. (I have a few detail shots if any one's interested.) Thanks, JRR

 

It's apparently from the Munster Panzermuseum;

English « Deutsches Panzermuseum Munster

better details of it on here than on their site though;

Willkommen bei Rommelkiste.de

under 'Fahrzeuge'

or;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brummbär

going back to scarface's question if he's still around - there were 2 loaders.

 

I like the 'Ardennes' setting in those pics - they must have used a lot of fake snow to get that effect

 

think is real - taken outside for a spring clean of museum maybe

 

Really ? Naaaaahhhhh.....

 

It was a trick played by the French.
When Saumur donated (swapped?) the bits to complete Munster's 166 they secretly installed a massive snow generator in the barrel, initiated by the smell of sauerkraut.
You should have seen the state of the Museum's interior...

Best Brummbar relic I've seen on the Internerd is still the piece displayed at Lerensfort. I sometimes wonder, given Brummbar's rarity, both are apparently Normandy finds, and the Munster machine was missing it's armament, if they once went together.:

WW2 Battlefield Relics The Tiger I tank at Orscha

That'd look so good in my Garden.

~A

 

Joking aside, it's interesting to read about the Brummbär....it was one of the odder and bolder models in the sadly-defunct 21st Century Toys range.



( This thread also reminded me how to do ä's ! )

 

ä ök - händy thät

 

As for the 5 man crew: Two are loaders. One handles the shell (about 90 - 100 lbs / 45kg or so) and the other the seperate cartridge and charge for firing. The combination is too heavy and awkward for one man to pick up.

 

excellent article with lots of phots;

World War II: Sturmpanzer IV