Falklands War

I think pvt pyle likes to stir the pot some argentinians did that to some people in 1982 who were and STILL are british that is why british troops fought and died for those people. Where as what happens to the THOUSANDS of people who disapear in argentina wo defends them!

 

Dunno why Im bothering with this prat but... Dont include Spain as you obviously know nothing about it.

My Spanish step-father had a cousin in the falklands... He used to interrogate the Argentine prisoners.

I think you will find just about the whole world will stand with Britain against the scumbag military junta that ruled Argentina. But perhaps you like dictators and death squads... My only regret about the Falklands is that you lot surrendered before our Ghurkas got to you.

Suggestion for you...


Grow up and read some real books.

 

From my understanding, the Falklands were discovered by a Brit who laid claim to it. There was a small native population (not Argentinians) and over the years it switched hands, but the British retained control for the most part.

But yeah, this thread is starting to turn into the *beating a dead horse* type thing.

 

From a Neutral point of view (that is, I'm neither British nor Argentinian) but wasn't the 1982 "attempt to recover national territory" really a move at the time of La Guerra Sucia (The Dirty War for Anglos) to detour attention from the actual Argentinian problems?

Hasn't the Argentinian goverment change rather radically since Carlos Menem onwards? Or is this anothermove for exactly the same populist reasons?

I would be very sorry if I found the Kirchner aims were the same of the Galtieri, Videla, etc. crew, really.

La Galería de los Desaparecidos (Sp.)
The Vanished Gallery: The Desaparecidos of Argentina (Eng.)

Argentina military junta members top officers and ministers


Here's a chronology starting in 1522. http://www.yendor.com/vanished/falklands-war.html

By the way, this Yendor site is written by an Argentinian. I'd suggest you read more of what's in the international press before daring to show up with distorted nationalistic views. You'll be no more than a laughing stock. Sorry, but that's the way it is. I am from a small nation myself, much smaller than Argentina, but I believe I am respected here and one of the reasons is that I avoid acting like a fool.

In summary, go fly a kite, you have no legitimacy at all in this subject at least until you get yourself more informed. Truth sometimes hurts.

And I'd advise against sending the Belgrano again, it seems the British have even better submarines lurking in the region.

 

Lol you do not even know to live wihtout democracy you... i lived it
By the way U.S backed the 1976 dictatorship

 

my granddad and father and Spanish so believe when i tell u that Spain backs up Argentine claims. Spain was stolen Gibraltar...

 

I dont understand it. Im from Argentina, do you want me to defend the British??? or my own countrymen ???

 

you avatar is going to haunt you real soon bud, keep your tempo down before you get butt kicked

 

Respected??? Only Grugdingly LOL. But I guess you are with all those purty blue and green medals LOL . There are quite a few here that I do respect And you are one of them.And at least you don't have a little flamer next to your name . But as I have said before noobsquadron was spouting the same uber-nationalistic distortions. And was receiving the same responses. That thread and noobsquadron are now both gone. Now I don't mind discussion. But not at the expense of the truth. Great Britain was the De Facto owner of the Islands for way more YEARS then Argentina.

 

Makes me wonder if noobsquadron is back.

 

Two neighbours live together. They both have a large house separated by water. The first neigbour buys a second house on a small island. However while he is in his other house, the second neigbour moves into the house on the small island, claiming he once owned it and that it being unguarded, he can squatt it and make it his own. The first neigbour then calls the police and the squatter is driven out. Is it common sense or not?

So why would it be different when we are talking about countries?

 

Not to turn this back into a historical discussion or anything but....

Not very knowledgeable on this subject but....

I remember from somewhere that the US CIA had concluded that the Islands could not be re-taken by the UK via amphibious assault.
Also The UK was relying on the RN to perform a successful recapture so the air forces where seriously outnumbered.
So why was the UK so successful? in what way where airborne combat losses compensated for.
Someone give me a title to a good book on the subject?

 

Congratulations, I lived through a dictatorship as well and I didn't like it.

And after dictatorship was gone I wouldn't like it either if my rulers resorted to the same populist methods again in order to move public attention away from current problems.

The economy is shaky, isn't it? Make people think of something else and the crisis will go away.

Yes sir, you're doing fine, what a lousy picture from an Argentinian source! Threaten an invasion and people will forget the rest. As Bill Clinton used to say, "It's the economy, stupid!"

Quite frankly, if you want to be taken seriously in this forum forget the macho rethoric and start talking about proper WW2 subjects in the proper places. This is a WW2 forum, remember?

 

Once again, wrong. Spain gave up it's claims in perpetuity (which they seem to forget means 'forever') under the treaty of Utrecht in 1713. I would argue that however we came to hold the land, the fact that the Spanish gave up their claim ends the argument. If it didn't the fact the locals don't want to be part of Spain would.

The same goes for the Falklands, that list JCF posted about sums the situation up, various nations have invaded the Islands, Argentina took them from GB who took them from someone else (actually, I suppose logically speaking Britain actually has a far older claim to the Falklands than Argentina does, so much for that argument) and at the end of the day the locals don't want to be Argentinian, so they won't be.

 

The locals that were living in the islands were argentine, yet the British didnt ask them, they shipped them back

 

This thread has gotten way out of control. I think its about time to close it before der PanzerPenguin decides to make this thread his latest home. You have been warned.

 

It is closed, which is why only the OKF can reply to it. We'll leave up for the weekend then latrine it.