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Discussion in 'Military History' started by Hans IV, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Tht's it, young man, keep on the straight and narrow and you'll go far. ;)

    How's that joke on sending vowels over the border? :)
     
  2. Hans IV

    Hans IV Member

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    I don't quite under stand what you mean sorry my english is not that good im orginal from Germany lived there since i was 4 but now im in Canada and in the Canadian Forces im a little slow haha.
     
  3. Hawkerace

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    I think of the United Nations as a symbol. It symbolizes the closest thing to coalition of allies. It brought peace in Europe(for now :p) and supported many nations.

    But not all the U.N. positions on things everyone can agree on. But sometimes they do not see what we see due to the Democratic ways of every country and view points on every other nation on the world.

    I think I'd rather have the United Nations as it is then rather no U.N. at all


    And I too am from Canada. And I see no reasons to make fun of the Americans.

    You guys may have your up and downs.. but you even out in the end.
     
  4. Hans IV

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    Could points :D i think if you live in America or a country that has a U.N council you should go on a tour of the building when i was in New York city just the other week i went on a tour and beging there opens your eyes of how horrbile war can be and how the U.N really does try to help eve if it "Doesn't always work"

    In the American U.N council they have a staute from Japan when the First duke was Droped on Nagasaki the staute has sharpnel on the back side of it, the rock was pulled right off and the front of the staute it looks like it is crying was pretty amazing how the nuke did that since the staute was 2km away from the drop zone i might at a pic here if you care to see it from my trip.
     
  5. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    What does Hans IV stand for . Are you the fourth generation?
     
  6. Hans IV

    Hans IV Member

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    haha ok i have to explain it to you haha this may sound stupid but like i said im german and Canadian right well my german name is Hans yes every one sounds funny but ya im the fourth generation but my Canadian name is Micheal king i have two diffrent names becuase im wierd i guess nah it's becuase my parents just wanted to change my name while in Canada plus it would sound pretty stupid if im in the Army beging called Hans all the time :D

    good question though :) sorry about my english again



    Danke und einen schönen Tag haben:)
     
  7. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    It would be rather difficult to get the UN to intervene constructively when several key players were receiving cash from Saddam. I understand why, after passing 14 seperate resolutions regarding, they did nothing to enforce them.
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Hans,

    Don't worry about your English. I am sure your English is better than my German, along with most everyone else's in here.

    How old are you?
     
  9. Richard

    Richard Expert

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    I saw this comment some time ago.

    I would be interested to know if this was a off a off the collar remark or Jacques Cousteau has information?

    I am no fan of the UN.
     
  10. Hawkerace

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    I was thinking his name implies 4th generation German?
     
  11. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    Thanks Hans IV.

    Richard I would be interested in reading Cousteau'x article. The quote seems quite incredible, it must be out of the context (I hope)
     
  12. Hans IV

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    Nope problem iam 24 but by mistake when i registerd i put the wrong age i wasn't thinking so straight
     
  13. von Poop

    von Poop Waspish

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    Unsurprisingly Skipper it appears to be a rather selective misquote, the misquotation seems to turn up mostly on sites with certain pro life agendas.
    While this site has it's own specific agenda it does reproduce the original quote rather more in the context it was intended:
    Negative Population Growth - World Population Awareness
    The 'elimination' being suggested by scientific action (or inaction) is of potential population increase rather than any actual people, the mechanism implied is the natural process of disease and decay that Science inevitably (though in certain contexts, debatably) fights against.
    As ever with moral debates and the clash of entrenched opinions, it's damnedly complex stuff.

    Seems to be more related to Malthusian views of population balance rather than the madness it's presented as.


    Cheers,
    Adam.

    (One thing I can now say from experience... UN publications can be deathly dull :eh:.)
     
  14. Richard

    Richard Expert

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    Found this as part of an interview -

    Looks like his words were twisted, any how here's the whole thing.
    Jacques-Yves Cousteau - Interview UNESCO Courier - Find Articles

    I am still digging up the UN remark.
     
  15. Richard

    Richard Expert

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    The power of the email, click London Independent for the full newspaper article.


    I don't have any plans to cross check this with UN's website. :D
     
  16. Otto

    Otto GröFaZ Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    No worries Hans IV, I'm glad you decided to stick around and introduce a bit of civility here. It takes a big man to apologize and carry on. Cheers!
     
  17. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    I feel better now because Cousteau was one of my heroes and I didn't not remember him saying that.
     
  18. PzJgr

    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    The US actually provided weapons to the mujahadin in Afghanistan during the guerilla conflict against the USSR. Now the US is fighting against the very same group it helped in the 80's.

    As for Iran, it was the US's biggest ally in the middle east prior to the revolution. Saudia Arabia then took that spot. It never provided arms to Iraq even after the Iranian revolution. The US did provide funding to Iraq in exchange for overflight rights for its RC-135s during the Iraq-Iran conflict.

    I believe Iraq had the 7th largest army at the time of the invasion. So I don't think it was that much of a surprise.
     
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    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    In total agreement which is why I believe the UN is useless. It is only effective in humanitarian missions and that is about it. So it is useful buy only a might.
     
  20. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    Military mission could be succesful too. look at Lebanon: The UN soldiers are allowed to shoot back and nobody messes with them. I think that the U.N. is learning from its mistakes and I don't think that massacres like Srebiniza will happen again with the UN. watching powerless.
     

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