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Name that tank!

Discussion in 'Quiz Me!' started by Joe, Oct 29, 2007.

  1. bodston

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    With the 75mm autoloader turret developed for the T20E1..

    anyway, what's this?

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  2. von Poop

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    Now then, never did quite get my mind straight on these...
    It's possibly a 'Panther D1'. 20-odd allegedly built with a late Pz.IV turret for training purposes (never been quite sure why).
    Or.... it's the conversion associated with Schw.PzJägAbt.653... As it's on a rail truck behind a Porsche Tiger, which that unit also had, I perhaps lean towards the latter.

    Different shot, but of the same vehicle in the same situation:
    (or has someone naughty photoshopped that first picture?..)
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  3. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Bodston, you're horrible! Torturing our poor minds with the minutiae of the obscure, grrrrr!

    This is a T-10 Tank, Medium, CDL.
     
  4. bodston

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    I'd favour the Bergepanther conversion theory, I remember that these babies appeared in an ancient discussion of Tiger(P)'s. Pre-forum days I think? Achtung Panzer has this..
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    Over to you...
     
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    'Ausf' that Panther:
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  6. skunk works

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    "A" ?
     
  7. von Poop

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    I reckon.
    Over to you SW.
     
  8. skunk works

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    Ausf this one or this one or this one
     

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  9. Ceraphix

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    The pic's are pretty small, but I'll go for G with the middle one.
     
  10. bodston

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    How did you come to that conclusion? One of the distinguishing features of the Ausf. G was its lack of a driver's vision port. This picture has one.
    I'd say it was a late Ausf. D or early Ausf. A. Built between July (Right headlight eliminated) and December 1943 (Ball mounted MG introduced)
     
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    The third picture could be an Ausf. G. I can't see a drivers port in the glacis and it has the ball mount.
    I can't see enough of the first one with those tiny pics to offer a guess.
     
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    The first one...who knows, probably an "A"
    The second, a "D"
    The third a "G"
    Another good way to tell a "G" is the side armour is the same angle as the turret, since the same hull was used for the hunting Panther. The "A" & "D" sides are more slanted than the turret, looking from the front or rear with gun forward, that is.

    take it away anyone
     
  13. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    Are those Panthers in the little pictures?.....
     
  14. Ceraphix

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    Here's an easier one

    Ausf it:

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  15. machine shop tom

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    Ausf J, L60 50mm gun ?

    tom
     
  16. skunk works

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    Pz.Kpfw III Ausf L
     
  17. Ceraphix

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    Skunk nailed it. I believe the extra armor on the gun mantlet can distinguish it from a J, and it can't be an M since it still has the turret escape door?

    Your turn skunk.
     
  18. bodston

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    As far as I can tell all models of the PzKpfw III retained the turret side escape hatches. What were removed early in the production run of the Ausf. L were the lower hull side hatches, the one between the road wheels and the return rollers. The turret side vision ports were also removed but the doors stayed. I think, although it is hard to see, that even the vehicles that were fitted with the turret Schürzen still had the turret side doors. They could of course have been welded shut.
    The Ausf. M had the headlights changed to the removeable type and they were moved to the fenders from the glacis. In addition the exhaust system was altered for deep wading, and smoke dischargers were added to the front turret.
     
  19. skunk works

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    How about these fellers?
     

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    Ram Kangaroo?
     

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