USA won World War Two and saved England ?

Everytime someone talks about World War 2 they never talk about the Canadians. We lost a lot of good people for this war. Everyones always talkin about the americans and the british. When we took Juno Beach(the second most defended beach)we penetrated farther into France than any other Allied force, having faced resistance stronger than at any beachhead other than Omaha.
They did a lot so when people talk about the americians winnin the war or the british remember that canadians and the soviets did a lot to defend there country and humanity.

 

All right, let's hear what the Canadians have to say, can you please expand?

 

We did a lot in the war. We were one of the first to go in the americans didnt send in anyone till 1942. Plus a man(from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada) named Sir William Samuel Stephenson(AKA Intrepid)he was the best spy in the war he was Rosevelts and CHurchills person spy. He helped find a machine like Enigma which help the ally forces by recieveing german plots.

 

Its not quite all the help the USA, or more accurately Roosevelt, gave Britain in the dark days of 1940.
Here's a post from the poster 'Marmat' on the History channel on this subject

 

Sorry, wrong post.

 

I think that you will find that the one country that did not have its debts to America annuled was the UK. Further the UK did not receive all reparations from Germany as promised at Versailles. Have a look at: 'Peacemakers: Six Months That Changed The World' by Margaret Macmillan.

 

On the topic of US support for Britain during WW2 then I recommend a read of, 'Friendly Fire: The Secret War Between the Allies' by Lynn Picknett, Clive Prince, Stephen Prior and Robert Brydon. Wraps up a number of pertinent themes.

 

Send in the Black Knight so he can bite off your legs. Not yours No.9

 

____"Stupid boy"____

 

I dont suppose there are many left from those times? Well there's me! And friends, I have the lumps to prove it

During the isolationist period in the USA. The British stood completely alone against the rampaging Nazis. We had no allies, no help. We were alone, the lone outpost of freedom in a sea of Nazi evil.

The reason the USA came into the war was due entirely due the attack on their fleet by the Japanese, I dont think they would have come in, had it not been for that attack.

What did make the USA think, was the possibilty of a Russian controlled Europe. For they may well have won the war eventually.

The fact that they did come in, I for one was very thankful. I fought alongside the Americans near Vire, and in the Falaise pocket.

My mate "Spud" and myself even captured an American in the German army. Though he was not a willing enemy, and was pleased to get captured,
I wonder what happened to him?
If you are out there mate? two British soldiers captured you coming down from a hay loft!

I liked the "Yanks" and they treated us like Lords. Together we did the job, for what ever is said, the fact remains that many young men from across the pond died for a better world for Europe.
Sapper...

 

Well said, Brian - and thanks for putting in a bit of perspective...

 

Hey Canadian man and all you other posters-sorry to harp on but ''England'' wasn't at war with Germany-it was the United Kingdom-England, Scoltand, Northern Ireland and Wales who were at war in W.W.2
''England'' hasn't been at war with anybody since May 1st 1707 when she signed the negotiated Treaty of Union with so please all you posters on this topic! it is laughably innacurate to talk about ''England'' fighting Germany-England has never-on her own- been at war with Germany in her entire history.

 

Completely agree with you Brian Donald..
When I write about WW2, I always, without exception, usd the GB or the UK. It was only used in this reply because of the specific referal to England. My company was a mixture of Welsh Irish English and Scots. Together we achieved great things.

My best mate was Jock Mathers. Sadly he was killed and is buried at Marheeeze in Holland. I have been into battle with the Ulster Rifles. and with the pipes of the Kings Own Scottish Borderers.

My most emotional memory is the day we entered Caen under heavy fire, with the Pipes of a khaki kilted KOSB trooper heard above all the din of the scream of shells, and blast of mortars.

WE did it together, and what great comrades in arms they were.

Now in my Eighties, I recall the day I went to war to the tunes of the pipes. It still sends shivers down my spine just thinking about it.
Sapper

 

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I dont suppose there are many left from those times? Well there's me! And friends, I have the lumps to prove it


During the isolationist period in the USA. The British stood completely alone against the rampaging Nazis. We had no allies, no help. We were alone, the lone outpost of freedom in a sea of Nazi evil.

The reason the USA came into the war was due entirely due the attack on their fleet by the Japanese, I dont think they would have come in, had it not been for that attack.

What did make the USA think, was the possibilty of a Russian controlled Europe. For they may well have won the war eventually.

The fact that they did come in, I for one was very thankful. I fought alongside the Americans near Vire, and in the Falaise pocket.

My mate "Spud" and myself even captured an American in the German army. Though he was not a willing enemy, and was pleased to get captured,
I wonder what happened to him?
If you are out there mate? two British soldiers captured you coming down from a hay loft!

I liked the "Yanks" and they treated us like Lords. Together we did the job, for what ever is said, the fact remains that many young men from across the pond died for a better world for Europe.
Sapper...
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Very interesting post sapper, from someone who actually put his life on the line for the rest of us, I take my hat off to you.

And what you said about just when would the U.S. enter the war in Europe but for Pearl Harbour and Hitler dragging them in to it.

Roosevelt was for it, but as you say the U.S. was very isolationist at the time and may well have just concentrated on Japan.

Although I think they would eventually have to get involved.

 

Evening Sapper,

Thank you for bravery, devotion to duty and above all from one American to a Tommie, thank you for protecting our freedom here in the U.S.A., because if it weren't for all of the forces of the United Kingdom, huffy little Adolf would have been on our door step. So, I thank you deeply, Sapper.

I found it interesting that you brought up the Ulster Rifles and the Kings Own Scottish Borderers, because in Charleston, South Carolina two hours north of me there are a fantastic group of lads portraying them in WWII public battles and living histories to keep their memory alive and well. Also here in my native state of Georgia, in north part of Georgia is a unit who portrays the Ulster Rifles and they are a great bunch of lads aswell.

By the way I love you guys song...

"Hitler has only got one ball!,
Goering has got two but their small;
Himmler he has got something similar,
And poor Goerbels he ain't got any at all!"

(To the tune of Col. Dolby's March)

Regards,
MARNE

 

Thank god for the U.S.!!!! if it wasnt for them we would probably all be speaking German!! lol

 

Or Russian

 

Hello Sapper!-great post!. Yes, in 1961-aged 19- I made my very first visit to London, England, from Scotland to watch the then annual Scotland v England soccer international (England won 9-3-ouch!).
On hearing I was going down to stay in London for a week prior to the April 1961 Wembley match, a veteran of the Scottish divison who fought in North-West Europe in 1944-45 asked me to look up his best mate -a Londoner who had served with the Jocks.
All I had to go on was a wartime black-and-white picture of the Scots veteran and the Londoner standing in 1944 beside a wrecked vehicle in their Scottish uniforms.
But I'm a tenacious fellow and I actually tracked down this Londoner/honorary Jock who lived in Lavender Hill, South London, and I was treated right royally by his whole family.AND the two comrades-in-arms circa 1944 in North -West Europe, were reunited and visited each other until their respective deaths in the early 1990's.

 

Hey Marne-I too love the song you quoted which we sang as kids in Scotland to the ''Colonel Bogey March'' however, as Goebbels had -I think five kids-he was remarkably fecund for someone so allegedly handicapped in the song lyric.
My biggest beef with you Americans-being-as you are- from Georgia- I won't dare call you a Yankee!-is that you guys ancestors killed loads of our good Scottish troops at the Battle of New Orleans in 1814- which took place 24 hours AFTER the peace treaty was signed in London, England, to end the War of 1812-14-thank goodness for the internet and a great pity that it wasn't around in 1814.!
Thank