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Stabilty with world hunger?

Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by Chuikov64th, Apr 14, 2008.

  1. C.Evans

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    [[[Now as for getting ones onw $h!t wired tight, I highly suggest you read what you posted above.]]]]
     
  2. Herr Oberst

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    Yes but much easier than beating a dead soviet horse.....Woe comrade silver;)

    maybe you should have fed him some non collective oats:D
     
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  3. Chuikov64th

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    The scientists seem to be split over the issue but the green version of world catastrophy in 50 years doesn't impress the sceptics. It can't be demonstrated using impirical evidence and the scientific method.
    Gore did make a few good points but it doesn't change the picture. I saw the movie but theatrics are just that, theatrics. There are things we should be doing to curb our use of fossil fuels for far more practical reasons that global warming. We have the means to do it, we have the technology to install a reactor for electrical power in individual homes now. We have the technology to mass produce electrical vehicles but we have no will to do it.
     
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  4. Chuikov64th

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    Who's beating that horse? I refer to Russia in many posts to make points about certain things and for the same reasons the SU.

    In ways the SU was a success, in ways it was a failure. Russia today is making vast strides forward while dragging the problems of the past with it like a ball and chain.

    There are many definitions of success. Many standards to judge it by.

     
  5. skunk works

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    Nuclear is the short term, quick fix, with an, as of yet, even if all transportation/operation goes off without a "hitch", unresolved problem.
    Growing by 60 spent rods a year per plant, worldwide.

    Nuclear Waste: Storage and Disposal Methods

    None (except firing it off at the sun...successfully) of the "options" proposed/used is anything more than temporary or,
    "sweeping it under the rug", to make the procedure look/seem "Rosie", and without shortcomings.

    Balderdash!

    Putting it underground (no matter how deep), is still vulnerable to earthquake/tectonic plate movement.
    Then it's in the ground water, then, crops, oceans..............the end, for everybody.

    Got a plan?
     
  6. Stefan

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    Has anyone ever noticed how often anti-Global warming evidence is produced by scientists funded by the oil lobby?
     
  7. C.Evans

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


    Hi Col, thanks for giving the best laughs I have had in awhile. :lol:

    PS, sorry I changed your above post a bit-I could not restrain myself at the chance of laughing at two great comments.
     
  8. C.Evans

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    I actually have no problem with your above post, and actually agree with you there.
     
  9. C.Evans

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    [[[[You]]]]


    I refer to Russia in many posts to make points about certain things and for the same reasons the SU.

    In ways the SU was a success, in ways it was a failure. Russia today is making vast strides forward while dragging the problems of the past with it like a ball and chain.

    There are many definitions of success. Many standards to judge it by.

    What im referring to is one of your posts to me quoting me about something. Do I have to lead you with a chain back to that post? it's in this thread and was clearly posted by yourself & nobody else.
     
  10. Herr Oberst

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    Thanks, Glad I wasn't drinking something....I kept thinking of Steve Martin and Dan Akroyd, two wild and crazy guys reading his post and trying to quote Barnes from Platoon with a Russian Accent.:D Classic...Clueless

    [​IMG]
     
  11. C.Evans

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    Hi Col, heh heh, I remember their skits on SNL. I have not thought of that one since???............ Now if we can find an excuse tu use John Belushi and his Samurai Psychiatrist character. Man those were some great shows back then.
     
  12. macrusk

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    Okay, I'm wading back in with part of my post that got completely ignored:mad: except for the potato famine remark....

    Hunger and rising food costs because food is being used for fuel sources. Did anyone look at the video YouTube - Salt water power Saltwater as a source of fuel.

    Any thoughts? Hmph!!
     
  13. Falcon Jun

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    That's a sensible viewpoint. I also generally prefer to walk or climb the stairs rather than use my car or the elevator. I do this not because for the sake of the environment but because I just like doing it. As a journalist, walking allows me to notice things and details that I would have otherwise missed if I was on driving a car.
     
  14. GRW

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    Michelle,
    Sorry but I just don't believe that one. There are international broadcasting stations on islands etc which are sending megawatt-strength signals across oceans without them catching fire.
    One of the commenters mentions getting the same reaction from an iron nail in salt water and a 9 volt battery; so why haven't ships' crews being reporting this phenomenon since the early 20th century?
    Even if true- and I'm not a physicist- how long did it take to achieve the desired effect? It doesn't seem very efficient.
     
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    Gordon, I think it is to do with the frequency and wavelength of the signal rather than the power. The logic is that certain frequencies will separate the hydrogen and oxygen which will then burn. It was good enough for National Geographic:

    Salt Water Can "Burn," Scientist Confirms

    We don't know what kind of applications it could have yet but still, if you could harness that think of the potential.
     
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    I know Stefan, but I keep getting different estimates for the resonant frequency of Hydrogen. I can't see any mentioned in that article. I've seen everything from VLF to VHF on different sites.
    Even those experts say the process isn't likely to be cost efficient. Surely if you heat seawater enough, what you get left with is salt?
     
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    Yeah, which is fairly useful, though I agree the process may not be efficient or useful, it still appears to work reasonably well. I'll trust the university physicists on this one ;)
     
  18. tikilal

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    In a few words, it is viable but not efficient, the electricity needed to create the microwave, to separate the fuel, is almost equal to what is gained in heat. This doesn't take into account the loss of energy it using the heat. With work it could get better but for now it is not viable.
     
  19. skunk works

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    Food prices are still going up, and it sure isn't ethanol production that's causing it.

    It's fuel costs for farm machinery and transportation!

    It's High Time we try any/all alternatives to crude oil.

    Since the Wright Brothers only flew +- 100 feet, into a 20+mph headwind, for +- 10 seconds ride, at a speed of 6-7 mph the first time....I imagine it's a good thing they didn't quit there.

    Some ideas are hopeless, (at current levels of technology), but the majority are hopeful.

    Tidal
    Wind
    Solar
    Bio-diesel (what do you do with old cooking oil anyway?)

    Don't give up because alternatives are not the "Magic Pill" the first time out. They will take teamwork, time, investment, and research & development.

    Once there....there will be little (if any) need for crud(e) oil. Bio-diesel will handle the heavy work till then along with other interim solutions. We do need to try instead of being held for ransom and griping about the sad situation of which we'll do nothing about.

    We need progress, instead of doing nothing except to watch the supply dwindle and the prices soar until the end.

    As Oddball said, "Always with the negative waves....have a little faith baby."

    Attitude (as with most things) is the first step. Don't kill alternatives before they're given a chance. Where we are now has no chance for the future/forever.
     
  20. tikilal

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    Nuclear FTW
     

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