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C.Evans · May 29, 2009

Triple C said:

Hi Evans,

I have no qualms accepting the claims of tank aces, as some people were just better at their jobs. The problem is that the action recorded in the book was fought around Kiev at 1941 which meant the StuGs would be armed with the short barrel 75mm gun. Given how other German reports from this period emphasized that Panzer Mark IV, their best tank which was also armed with the L/24 gun could not put a scratch on the T-34-76, the claim in the book becomes perplexing. Especially because in this fight, numerous T-34s were knocked out by frontal shots with a single AP round. To add to the confusion of the account, the unspecified German general in command of the division could not believe what his StuG brigade was telling him and had officers to take a look at the dead T-34s. The kills were officially verified, at least according to Lucas.

It could be a very poor batch of T-34s. I am at a loss to explain this engagement.
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What you say makes sense but-I was under the impression thanks to Marks book-that the short-barrelled STUGS were better-at least at closeer range than the long-barrells. Im no armor or mobile artillery expert by any means but, I until readingIsland of Fire-was of the same opinion as you posted above-about their actual "worth" facing T-34s. Speaking of KOed T-43s, I just got a nice pic of one that was taken by GR 426-Hauptmann and future RKT-Karl Glatzner. It was possible that the KOed T-34 in his pic was done so by a STUG III. I got this info from the seller who was sadly-splitting apart this mans personal things-in which I was only able to keep five together thanks to limited internet access. Anyway, Glatzners unit had STUGS in it according to the seller I got these from. It would be interesting to know the full story.

fast1 · May 30, 2009

C.Evans said:

wtid45 said:

Hi Jason, I fond my 1st printing copy of Mitchams book-for about $30.00 on Amazon.com I us it as one of my main sources-but it's mostly just a reprinting of the German Order of BAttle 1944 book-published by Allied Intelligence in June of 1944 ;-)) Im looking for Nafzigers book as wel as another-because they are not only updated-but have more correct info-though Mitchams book isnt bad-its still full of mistakes and or "info holes" which I find irritating. ;-)) Mitcham is a great source though. I use it all the time-as well as I visit the www.lexiconderwehrmacht.com site-from time to time ;-)). I don't have its url handy-but I THINK the above is their site addy.

I agree about the costs too-Stackpole books can be addicting. Take care MAte.
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$30... was that a good price?
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C.Evans · Jun 1, 2009

fast1 said:

C.Evans said:

$30... was that a good price?
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For a 1st rinting with original and in great condition-dust-jacket-that's an excellent price.
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von Poop · Jun 1, 2009

Triple C said:

I have a copy of a book by James Lucas and it is published by Stackpole. It seems very well written and researched, but some claims made me incredulous; maybe because the book was written entirely from the German perspective and without double checking sources? I am in a chapter of the book where StuG IIIs with the short barrel 75mm gun were knocking out wave after wave of T-34s near Kiev and many with a single shot to the frontal arc. Hm...
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Must confess that every Lucas book I have (a fair few) leaves me feeling a little cold. Somehow a fair way from the cutting edge, and always with one or two 'hmmm... really?' doubtful moments.

~A

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