What made Battleships obsolete?

the russian kirov class cruisers, when introduced in the early 80s were meant for sea denial. a carrier's planes and escorts will be hard put to bring one out of action, especially if it also had some sort of carrier support. but the kirov was a nuclear-powered missle cruiser, so the armor-speed-firepower trinity for battleships has changed to speed-firepower-electronics

 

The USS Iowa tops out at 33 knots, which is roughly 38 mph, 37.92 to be exact. The Kirov Class Battle cruiser tops out at 32 knots, which is roughly 37 mph, 36.82 to me exact. The USS Iowa is what they use to call a "Fast Battleship". The USS Iowa weighed 45,000 tons vs The Kirov's 24,300 tons. Plus the Iowa has twice as much armor than the Kirov Class.

You see the USS Iowa may be old, but it is still superior to any ship of it's size out there. The only thing that will beat it is, of course, a Carrier.

 

the kirov had 12 SS-15 anti-ship missiles capable of sinking any ship whereas american missile defense systems still have trouble defending against scuds (SS-1.)

 

The Iowa carried UAV's and would be able to spot it. The AEGIS missile defense system would be able to lock onto the missile and destroy it via Aegis Anit-Aircraft Warefare or AAW. US Navy ships never travel alone, especially battleships.

 

The Iowa Class Battle Wagons are old; but, so is Muhamad Ali and I am thinking not too many people would get in the ring with Ali.

 

On my way to Shasta as a (younger) kid, we drove by the line of ships stored there. Of course, I had no idea what it was, but I was enchanted by the size and power emanating from the thing.

Only when I got involved in both history and geography, I read about World War II and installed Google Earth. I decided to look up ship museums, and I had thought the Iowa was one. Guess where I find it? Wow. I gotta visit the Hornet sometime too.

 

That made me laugh a bit FJ. I don't think they would either.

Have you been to the Sub in the bay yet?

 

I have been on the Pompano in San Fran and on the Bowfin at Pearl Harbor. There is a Liberty ship, tied up near the Pompano, the SS Jeremiah O'Brien that is also very cool to see if you get the chance.

In 1989 the Ship I was on(USS Pelilieu LHA-5) at Long Beach Naval Shipyard was tied up next to the Missouri so I got the chance to see her when she was still active. A few years ago, when I went back to Hawaii, I saw the Mo' and it was sad to see the condition she is in.

 

Was the Mo' all rusted?

 

It just needs some TLC. There were weeds growing up through the deck boards paint was pealing..etc. There was a big controversey over it a few years ago and I think things are better now.

Brad

 

I hope it is. A ship like that needs to be loves. She should be moved in with her sister.

 

thee battleships were oblesete drew frome the aircraft carrier to get war planes close to thee emeny also planes can refull close to thee action.
also thee aircraft carrier had the same power as guns and firing as thee battle ship.
thee aircraft carrier had three in one bulit in her,that made the battleship obelsete.

 

No...........once the air wing left the Carrier it was defenseless against surface attack, that is why they were usually part of a larger taskforce or battle group.

 

Yea, its much better now. I saw the Missouri when i visited Pearl Harbor. It was a museum by then, a pretty interesting one, too.

Have yet to pay a visit to the pampanito and the hornet.

quite a couple cali boys here, eh? the texans have been blowing their horns

 

as for the new jersey and wisconsin, those i think are pretty bad off

 

Diesel engines?!! The Iowas have 600 psi steam plants using boilers driving four steam turbines.

 

I have seen it.

The USS California.





Traveled across my pool as a plastic model with a nifty addition of a homemade miniature diesel engine, courtesy of Mr. Kelly my neighbor. Unsightly and large, but cool to have a moving model. Of course, until it sailed right into the filter and never returned...

Ok, it might not have been diesel. It was really small.

 

Here you go SOAR21. I will preface this by saying : "I dislike Wikipedia; but, this is a very comprehensive article.

Iowa class battleship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brad

 

Sorry TA, my mistake. Was thinking of something else at the time.

As for that Wikipedia link for the USS Iowa, it is reliable. I've checked it out many times and found it reliable.