England and Germany Unite.

King Edward the VIII after retaking his proper place as leader of United Kingdom in 1939, signs an agreement with Germany in support of Germanys effort to ride the world of communism and to stop the Soviet starvation of millions of innocent Ukranians. In response Germany agrees to cease the enslavement and extermation of jews in Europe. With a combined Anlgo Aryian effort, the communist are defeated. Poland remains a free nation, a United Europe is established. The USA burdened with economic depresion is forced to concede most of it's Pacific territories east of Hawaii. Japan no longer sees the USA as an agressor peace and prosperity reign.

 

So what is the question? Seems like you presented an alternative scenario with established results

 

Isn't that the whole pointof the thread? What if? right?

 

No, what if threads are supposed to be align the lines of.



What if there was no stop order at Dunkirk? Would the BEF have surrendered leading to Britain out of the fight as well?

 

Yeah but you like answered your own question..the question could have been What if England and Germany united..But you provided a scenario then completed it..

 

The US would go on the warpath, and crush Japan, Germany, and the UK. This is because American territories east of Hawaii comprise Washington, Oregon, California, and Alaska. I would suggest that in addition to phrasing your "What if" question correctly, you also learn to read a map

 

Don't like the attitude in you response, I made a directional mistake and I except it. I stand by my phrasing of the question, if you cant come up with a scenario were the future i lay out doesnt work or what might had happened had Hitler not given England one last chance at Dunkirk that's your problem.
I establish Edward the VIII is once again ruler of the Uk and instead of debunking that as an impossibility you critiize me on my structure, micro Fascism!

 

Peace and prosperity reign? How about in China, where Japan is still running amuck?

How does Edward become leader of the UK? Are you proposing to dissolve the Parliamentary government of the UK, and re-install the Monarchy as the head of government? How do the people of England feel about this?

How far back do you push the communist government of the USSR? Do elements of the communists infiltrate the government of India, especially with the weakened UK? Does India gain independence. Do Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa withdraw from the Dominion?

Basically, your question is impossible

 

There is so much wrong with this scenario its difficult to know where to start.

King Edward VIII will never regain power, he simply did not have the support of either the British government or public.

Britain will never sign up to an agreement to attack the Soviet Union.

Germany will never agree to a free Poland. Germany attacked Poland and the Soviet Union for the purpose of conquest, not to free the world of Communism.

A United Europe was never the aim of Nazi Germany, they were only interested in a Greater German Empire.

The USA was simply too strong economically for Japan to have any realistic chance of success.

 

He's got a point

 

nicklaus,

I notice that the Nazi flag is prominate in your avatar photo. King Edward VIII was removed from his foriegn office duties because he was pro-Nazi. Are you?

 

Noobie on Noobie....I like it....

Remember boys, keep it clean, no hitting below the belt, and when the mods intervene, go back to your corners....

 

"Anglo [Aryan]" (he he he)

1. It is not the UK's interest to support the titanic task of bringing down the SU.

2. The US "economic depression" was a depression compared to domestic standards. The worst cycle of the depression occurred in the first half of the 1930s.

The United States was still wealthier per capita in 1939 compared to Germany and the United Kingdom.

 

Right there your whole what if could be debunked ( im new too so im not trying to get on your case here ). Hitler wanted conquest as much as extermination of the Jews and gypsy races among others. For a man who would willingly send any able man to the front lines to die for his cause I can't see any way possible that they would agree to such.

 

If this did happend,wuold thee germans be a Allie side or wulde thee british be an axis side???

 

Take a look at the US ecomony in 1938, unemployment was at 19% almost 12 million people. Durable good production was off nearly 40% of it's 1937 high. It wasn't till they geared up for wartime production did any real recovery take place.

 

The side with England,Germany,Ireland,Spain,Italy,Japan etc would be the allied side.

 

Those figures you state are way too high. US unemployment hovered around 14% in the last 3 years of the 1930s. 1941 saw unemployment at 10%, and in 1942 it was down to 5 %. Between 1943-1945 unemployment was at 2%.

What you state does not negate my point that the US was wealthier and more economically capable than Germany and the United Kingdom combined.

You also neglected the large US population relative to these countries. In WW2, over 40% of the entire world's military production took place in the US.

It doesn't matter, anyway. Your scenario is too far fetched.

 

I had to do a double-take on that one. I thought it was "Anglo-Saxon" at first..