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a true look of german occupation of france!

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  1. sniper1946

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    not as we would assume! or seemingly? plus several other interesting links:confused:
     
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    Guess it's hard to tell from a group of photos. Seems like an awful lot of finger pointing going on between the two groups though.
     
  3. sniper1946

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    Look at the source. This CRAP is all being foisted by an anti-semitic website called Judical-inc. which is known to be completely unreliable. You might as well post articles from Stormfront.
    There is zero historical foundations for anything they are saying. One fourth of the Jews in France ended up being gassed. True, France gave up early in the war, but there were thousands of brave partisans who continued the fight and many thousands Free French who continued the fight from abroad.
    Of course the French are incensed over this because it completely misrepresents the facts. The Collaborators were dealt with very harshly after the war.
     
  5. Mehar

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    This pictures along with "the usual" aren't far from the truth, German Veterans have commented that almost immediately after the Fall of France life had gone back to normal, the next day people had continued on with life. For a few years the German soldiers stationed in France were also using money to pay for stuff they purchased. Later on goods were simply reprimanded.

    I don't know much about this site, although the bottom portion raises a few questions, is that the authors opinion or are they opinions from people?

    I do find it kinda strange that the French government would try to whitewash over some of this completely. The internments are also a pretty big part to be left out of the exhibition. It would be interesting to see how life was in France under the Wehrmacht and later the S.S.?
     
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    It doesn't Jibe with what I've heard. Back in the 1970's, I managed an accounting office for a large company. One of the women who worked for me had been a 15 year-old girl when the Germans rolled into Paris. We often talked about her experiences in German-occupied Paris.

    She said that, except for a few small communist cells, there wasn't much resistance anywhere in France until late in 1943, when the Allies sent in agents to set up resistance groups in anticipation of the Normandy landings. Life, she said, was pretty normal in Paris except for shortages of various kinds of foods and spot shortages of other things that would be expected, like gasoline, bicycle tires, certain items of clothing, shoes, some types of medicine, etc. she went to school, church, ran errands for her parents, attended the "cinema" once or twice a month (very few French movies and always German news reels) with her girl friends. As a point of pride, she refused to speak German, even though she picked up a fair bit and it was a required subject in school.

    She told me that a lot of French people did collaborate with the Germans, and a lot of her friends did date German soldiers after a period of time had passed and it looked like the occupation would be fairly long term. But she added that she never did despite numerous opportunities because her father had been in the French Army reserves, was captured by the Germans, and, as a result, hated them. Also there were a lot of French citizens who refused to have anything to do with the Germans in a sort of passive resistance. Paris was considered to be a kind of military "rest area" by the Germans because there were many things available in Paris that couldn't be found even in Germany, and other countries in occupied Europe. Germans could buy things in special stores that weren't available to average French citizens; that was a big reason why some French girls dated German soldiers. Plus she pointed out that, for older women, there was generally a shortage of French males due to the slaughter in the trenches in WW I.

    Overall, she said, it was a tedious time for most French people, who did not like the Germans and German imposed rules and regulations. She especially resented having been forced to spend her latter teen years under foreign occupation. After Paris was liberated, French citizens remembered which French men and women had been collaborators and took revenge; some of the worst were shot or hung, ordinary girls who had dated German soldiers generally weren't harmed, but females who had married, or had long term relationships with, Germans, or had children by German soldiers, often had their heads shaved and were sometimes paraded naked through the streets.

    She herself met a British soldier towards the end of the war, married him, and both emigrated to the US in the 1950's. The only lasting effect of the war for her was a life-long aversion to peanut butter. That was because after the war, there was a severe food shortage in Europe, and to help alleviate it, the US shipped it's entire reserve stock of peanuts to Europe where it was made into peanut butter and became one of the few foods that was readily available.
     
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    I would think that the Germans were much more relaxed in Paris as they never actually had to fight for it, they probably treated the people better because they had no real reason to resent and dislike them. That is until the Normandy landings....
     
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    that is the way I viewed it devils/tote,but as you say! later war years things changed...
     
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    Great site Ray. Im currently hoping to scor my first Germans in Paris shot in the next few days. This pic either shows them on the Effel Tower-or it is clearly seen in the background. It shows several GJ's touring Paris.
     
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    I wouldn't be too sure of that.

    Take a look at the "Black Dahlia" link at the bottom of the page. It's clearly anti-semitic and includes comments that I have NEVER seen mentioned in other accounts of of the "Black Dahlia" mystery.

    I can't take anything claimed on this site very seriously.
     
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    Huzzah??? DA, perhaps im a bit dense but, can you please explain to me what that has to do with several men who were Gebirgsjagers who were on leave touring Paris, France? Danke.

    Oh and, the Eiffel Tower is clearly seen in said photo. If you doubt me? just ask Skipper to go check my account and ask him to look at the huge monument that is in this photo. As far as I know? there is only one Eiffel Tower that is of that size and located in a smallish Country called: France.
     
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    This site is openly supporting revisionism and holocaust denial and the captions are lies . These German propaganda pictures were ALL taken by one single French photographer called zucha , who officially worked for Signal and the PropagnadaStaffel, it seems he did a good job as it still works in 2009......

    The models who are posing are NOT jewish girls . When these pictures were taken the Jews were already being deported to death camps . It is not only insulting for the Jews who are depicted as wealthy and happy under the Nazi rule, but also to the Resistants who fought the Germans (of whom 80.000 were deported).
    These pictures were shown in Paris last year, because despite being propaganda pictures, they are interting and deserved to be shown, but adding these captions is nothing but hate and nonsense.

    I hope no-one fell for it, if you really want to see Zucha pics there are already several threads about him on the forum.
     
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    Sniper, check your links Before you post them, did you see how those Neo-Nazis spit on British Bomber Command , or how they call Berlusconi a jew, and how they insult minorities in America? Didn't you notice they are White Power supporters?

    this thread is now closed.
     
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