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  1. DogFather

    DogFather Member

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    Why doesn't somebody invite Devilsadvocate back to the forum? Posters were mean to him, just like you have been to me. So, he
    left and has not retuned. I don't have his e-mail, or I would ask him to
    come back!

    He was a very well read member and had less bias or preconceived notions, than many of the adversaries, I have had to deal with, on the
    subject of Pearl Harbor. Mr Advocate also seemed to have real good
    judgement and common sence, along with the ability to see the bigger picture.

    Which is another major problem, I have noticed with some of the frequent
    posters on this forum. He also never resorted to name calling, or demanding a source, for things that are very well known, just to be argumentative.
     
  2. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    Hi Dogfather. Have you sent him a pm? I can forward your message to him and if he wishes he can answer you. He will then have the opportunity to give you his email if he wants to do so
     
  3. DogFather

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    I'll try that, but I have not see him on the forum for a while. If he doesn't
    visit the web site, he won't get a PM.
     
  4. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    DF, what names have you been called? You are an advocate of conspiracy theories, so terming you a conspiracy theorist isn't "name calling".

    As for demanding sources, if you want to run with the big dogs, you better bring your best canines.
     
  5. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    Citing sources isn't meant as an insult and it's not an unreasonable request. By citing a source you allow the reader an introspective to your understanding of the subject, it also provides a context for the supplied quote or reference.

    Citing sources is a good thing for the reader and writer, it is not meant to be an indignation.

    DA is a bigboy and he chose to leave the forum.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I thought DA asked some interesting questions. I'm always in favor of "keeping honest". (And that's one good reason we ask for sources.)
     
  7. DogFather

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    It's name calling when I have never suggested a conspiracy. It's kinda like
    saying this guy is a waco, believes in conspiracies that have no real basis.

    As for demanding sources, people were doing this when the subject in question, was well known, that is being argumentative. The one member
    seemed to get mad, when I used info from his post on another forum.
    I don't see what's wrong with that, as long as the info is correct.

    Another problem with the source question, is I am often told the source
    is wrong, because some of you guys seem to know everything. I'm also
    been asked for a source, when I have made a conclusion of my own.

    Kinda like I have no right to do that on this forum.
     
  8. von Poop

    von Poop Waspish

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    Dry your eyes sweetheart.
    It's only the Internet.

    I've just read pages of threads that aren't really my bag, to see where this 'name-calling' happened.
    From what I can see, your definition of 'Name-calling' is; 'People disagreeing with you'.

    Get over it, or move on, surely?

    ~A
     
  9. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    If you do not provide the sources that you used to reach your conclusion what else are we to suspect. Hearsay is not fact it can be used to promote an idea, but if it is unsubastantiated it is nothing more than rumor.
    Citing sources is a natural part of research and debate. The source you supply can provide additional context for your argument.

    It is easy to jump to conclusions when you only read the things that support your argument. There are reputable sources and then there are others.

    You have the right to state whatever you want; but, be prepared to defend your position. Think of your opinion as being a machine gun and your sources as your ammuniton and sand bags and above all be polite.
     
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    What the heck guys , the man just asked an interesting question and a way to contact Devil , if you are going to lynch him just becasue he showed up , no wonder he wants to leave. Please Dogfather take no offense
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    It's disingenuous to post what we KNOW is conspiracy theory and then claim you are innocent of the disease of CTism.
    If you don't know the sources, you haven't seen the sources. Therefore you're only doing copy pasta from somebody else's work. That doesn't nothing for you. Nothing good, anyway.
     
  12. DogFather

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    I sent DA a PM. Let's see if he visits gets the PM. If not, I
    will send you a PM, and you can give his e-mail. Maybe DA still looks at
    this web site and does not sign on, or something like that.
     
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    Well all must copy and paste or Quote source any type of info provided since Non Of Us lived through WWII, Ok the Majority of Us. All accounts are from Books documents, Diarys++++. The majority of all historians made many mistakes in their Assessment accounts or Embellished. Remember War History is written By the Winners not the losers.

    Look OP I've been called many names ++++++ Just don't take it Personal or seriously, Yes I know the questions you addressed holds Water since I have been through Similar Ok ++++++++.:rolleyes::D:D

    There's many Posters on this Site that are not like That, I've also read DevilsAdvocate So many Posts and agree on what you stated concerning his way of Communication with others.

    And then you wounder why some move on or are afraid to Post on Threads for the Fear that others will jump down their throats and ridicule the person because they have a different View or perspective. Well if Your a Neo-Nazi and post that way, I would be :mad: and would have something Colorful to say about that.

    I say a Little more then Half now concerning WWII is chiseled in Stone. The rest is debatable or still to be confirmed.

    Like a Trusted member on this Thread Told me once only believe in half of what you read. And he is soooooooooooo Right :D.

    Keep an open mind and paint with a wide Brush then use a very thin one for all the details.

    Don't give Up Hope! I'll Give You a Heads-Up Don't take yourself or things to seriously.:D
     
  14. Skipper

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    DF, I actually cannot give you his email (I need his consent ) , but can send him yours if you agree

    The problem is settled so the thread is now closed for further discussion.
     
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