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Is WWII the largest event ever to occur?

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  1. Ken The Kanuck

    Ken The Kanuck Member

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    It may be possible that in future history books we might be considered to have lived in the most defining era of history.

    WWII is a recent event in historical terms and many if not all of us personally know a person or people who lived through WWII. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of us have actually been given first hand information about what it was like to be living then.

    WWII may be the largest event ever to happen in mankind's history. I'm sure that many will feel the birth of Jesus or Mohammed maybe a larger event. They truly are stupendous events and we will not know if WWII will have as lasting impact?

    What do you think? Is WWII the largest event ever to occur in mankind's history and do you think that era in which we live (expanding it a bit to include those still living) say from 1900 until the most important era?


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  2. Poppy

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    War is in your face change... Ideas and mentality are more subtle , take longer, and prolly more dangerous. Good question.
     
  3. sunny971

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    There has been bigger events than ww2 throughout time.

    As far as war is concerened I believe ww2 was one of the most deadliest, and destructive events of all time. Apx. 50 million lives lost in 6 years.

    About 12 million alone were victims of genocide.
     
  4. macrusk

    macrusk Proud Daughter of a Canadian WWII Veteran

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    Possibly one of the events with highest impact within a historically short period of time; not the largest, as I lean towards other ideas such as religious events or the age of enlightenment as being larger although they were spread over a larger period of time and were not recognized at the time for being momentous in mankinds history.
     
  5. surfersami

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    I think it is one of the largest events that shaped the world since the flood of Noah. It's repercussions are being felt now and will be until the end of the world.
    Because of the span of geographic influence, and the technology advances made because of it, millions of people were directly impacted who never even knew there was a big world out there.
    Think of the people in remote areas that before the war had never seen an outsider. Papua New Guinea/Papua Indonesia for example. Except for missionaries some of the tribes hardly knew there were even people in the next valley over from theirs. Pacific islanders who were enslaved or totally moved off their home for what ever reason. This hasn't even began to scratch the surface of the human suffering that was wrought throughout the world. Whole generations of potential families were lost as single and married young men went off to war instead of raising families in their homelands.
    I would say it may be the biggest catastrophic event in world history. Although there was a lot of good that came from it also, technologically.
     
  6. Mussolini

    Mussolini Gaming Guru WW2|ORG Editor

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    If you're talking actual facts, something that actually happened, then you need to toss out Jesus and Mohammed and all of those religious events. The Death of Jesus, for instance, had little/no impact on the lives of people at the time outside his small group of followers. There is also no evidence that anything in the bible ever happened (and it was written hundreds/thousands of years after the alleged events by people who were not there). Mohammed's death around 700AD and the birth of Islam (and the split between Shiite and Sunni) would probably be the largest religious event that occurred as it has effected millions upon millions of people since then.

    WW2 was certainly a large event, but I think if you consider it you have to consider that WW1 was part of it - the correlation between the two is undeniable, so I think you need to broaden the view and consider the World Wars as one event, which certainly changed the face of the earth and shifted power from West to East.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    I agree that the World Wars brought momentous change to the world; bending advanced technology to war, encouraging innovation, etc. However, I think we are too close to them historically to make such a sweeping judgment. There have been numerous watershed events in human history that helped created conditions of significant change; for example, the Plague in Europe in the 14th Century opened the way for the rebirth of learning in the Renaissance. I would also point out the establishment and growth of Rome, both the Republic and Empire, which put down legal and social concepts that are central to today's western societies. I could go on and identify other places and events which had tremendous impact, not only on the time and place they occurred, but had lasting effects on human society.

    We might need some historical distance from WW2and WW2 to truly judge their global impact. Certainly, the 21st Century world has undergone a sea change from the beginning of the 20th Century. Yes, the wars had much to do with that, but consider also changes in communication (telegraph, telephone, television, the internet, etc.) which happened in rapid succession and were independent of the wars. Granted, none of these produced the human cost of war, but their impacts have greatly changed not only the western countries, but the world at large.

    Thanks for making me think. ;)
     
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    Without getting off topic, there is more historical proof of the things written in the Bible than you could ever dream of. Do the research before making blanket statements. The fact that our calandering/date system is based on the birth of Jesus is pretty telling of an event that changed history. I won't argue anymore in this thread though.

    WWII is deffinately an event that effected the whole world no matter where you lived! It truly is a monster event.
     
  9. Militant

    Militant Dishonorably Discharged

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    Well, i'd say it was in modern times it was; afterall after WW2 the world was changed, forever.
     
  10. Spaniard

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    Is WWII the largest event ever to occur? I pondered for a Little while " The "Largest Event"
    is The Second World War. Since this War is known as "The Unnecessary War."

    The Needless human Suffering as the Deaths, IMHO of 70,000,000 +++ individuals Military or especially Civilians,
    of which Children payed the highest price for our Own Prejudices and Ignorance.

    YAaauupe Add The Great War also, since WWII is known to be Part II of the Great War. The Needless Lost
    of so Much Life, Is the Largest event and shows how barbaric we can still be towards each other.
     
  11. brndirt1

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    Yes blanket statements, and generalizations are usually false. Including this one "surfersami". The use of the dating system in the west is followed for convenience sake by most of the rest of the world, just as English is the universal language of the commercial air services.

    But internally the Chinese don't use it, the Japanese don't use it, the Muslims don't use it, the Jews do and don't at the same time. So dating systems are not easy to "nail down" either.
     
  12. Mussolini

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    Evidence of a huge flood etc is one thing, that does not prove there was an 'Ark' with 2 of every animal on it. I won't bother getting into the other things. The Calendar/date system is not based on the birth of Christ either. Calender systems (like the Roman Calendar, and then the Julian Calendar) were in existence for thousands of years, based on moon cycles etc. The modern calendar, the Gregorian Calendar, has only been in widespread use for approximately 500 years, and was not created until 1500 years after the Birth of Christ. When the Pope decided to use it, all other Catholic Nations did as well, thus its prominent use throughout the modern world. Even the names of the months are taken from the Roman Calendar. Need I point out that the Mayans had a calendar predating Western Civilization that is still 100% accurate today?
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    You could also look at the Napoleonic Wars as being a huge, momentous event in history. It lead to the Unifications of the German and Italian city-states into their respective modern day countries and shaped the face of Europe greatly.

    So it really depends on your perspective and how you define 'largest event'.
     
  13. Skipper

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    I believe the "Big one" hasn't happened yet, if there was to be WW3 then we'd probably all be nuked and WWI and WWII would be considered "smaller" . We'd never know as we'd all be dead ...
     
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    I always loved the Einstein quote which was (paraphrasing); "I am sure we will fight WWIII with atomic weapons, and if the human race survives; we will fight WWIV with sticks and stones."
     
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    "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein

    He was certainly a man ahead of his time - rather scary to be living in a time where his words might come true.
     
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    Jesuse VS Ala?:rolleyes: P.S. This is not a Joke.

    Or the Samaritan Theory?

    Or The Sumerian Theory?
     
  17. surfersami

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    As far as the what has happened up till now, WWII is probably the biggest on a global scale. As Spaniard elluded to, WWII is a follow-on to WWI, If not Hitler, sooner or later Europe would have exploded again, maybe without the genocide, but at a later date, where would we have been with weapons development? That is a very scary thought!!!
     
  18. Erich

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    WW 2 has the most impact. so far till armageddon. just so you know Matt this is your opinion about Christ which I agree to disagree with you upon. till you get your butts over to the mid-east and I mean every single one of you and see for yourselves the destruction and wasteland for thousands of years and our future now and into the future after we are all gone, you are never going to know first hand. Pi** on the worlds media
     
  19. Mussolini

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    Erich - I am not sure I follow the last half of your post. Pure confusion - are you talking about the Iraq/Afghan wars, or are you saying the Mid-East is an arid land since biblical times because of Gods wrath?
     
  20. Erich

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    both areas really M ~ sad to say both spots on the planet are going to be hellish, more so than what we have seen so far. What we call the mid-east is a wasteland due to peoples whom became enemies and for self motivation destroyed everything in sight through fire, interesting how the literal winds of time have moved things from spot to spot, when I was in Jordan in particular several old Romanesque cities completely buried under 50 or more feet of sand the "newer" city sprung up much later and down what we would somehow call a road 1-2 miles away. Israel is in the same time warp. Syria as well.
     

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