canadian dieppe training

I have a question: How come the canadians didnt see any action during world war 2 and what were they training for whas it a specail plan invasion

 

I think you'll find the Canadians saw a lot of action.

Try Googling "Dieppe 1942" and "Juno Beach" for starters.

The you could read this

Military history of Canada during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Should get you started.

 

In addition to Richie B's link, check out the Department of National Defence's Directorate of History and Heritage website: Directorate of History and Heritage

In addition to their official histories, there are a number of historical reports that detail Canadian actions during WWII. When we were stationed in Canada (1993-2000) our next door neighbor's father served during the war and took a trip to the Netherlands for a reunion visit. The people of the Netherlands still remember and honor the Canadians for their help in liberating the country.

John

 

Didnt Canadian Troops take part in the far east, either Singapore or Hongkong, I sure I read somewhere that they were landed to late and the Japanese had overrun the main British defence line.
Yan.

 

The Canadian action in World War II included - the RCAF, the Navy, the Army, Camp X - SOE. They served in Northwest Europe, Italy, the North Atlantic, the Far East, India, Sicily, there were Canadian officers in North Africa, they served at Kiska, they served in Australia, they served in Hong Kong. A Canadian Division was in Britain by December 1939. Over 1 million Canadians served in WWII.

Why don't you do a search on this Forum for Canada and Canadian? Start at the various websites listed in this thread http://www.ww2f.com/information-req...wwii-related-research-i-e-family-history.html

Also have a look at Veterans Affairs Canada Canada and the Second World War - Veterans Affairs Canada
"...For a young nation it was a remarkable achievement. Serving in the Canadian Army, the Royal Canadian Navy, the Royal Canadian Air Force and with other Allied Forces, thousands of young Canadians fought from 1939 to 1945 on the battlefronts of the world. They were there to defend the United Kingdom when it appeared that Nazi invasion was imminent. They fought valiantly in the unsuccessful attempt to defend Hong Kong against the Japanese. At Dieppe they bore the brunt of a daring, but fateful raid against the enemy-controlled coast of France. Above all they played their part in two great campaigns: they fought for twenty months in Italy, and were in the front lines when the Allies returned to Continental Europe on D-Day in 1944.

They brought honour and a new respect to their country. Most of all they helped to win the struggle against the tyranny and oppression which threatened to engulf the world. It was for our freedom that these young Canadians fought, and it was for that freedom that many of them died.

More than one million Canadians and Newfoundlanders served in the Second World War. Of these more than 45,000 gave their lives, and another 55,000 were wounded. Countless others shared the suffering and hardship of war.

These few words are dedicated to those who fought so that we might live in freedom. It is their valour that we must remember."

Sherman, I would very much like to know what made you think that the Canadian Military saw no action in World War II or why you have such little knowledge about Dieppe? Regarding Dieppe, you should do a search on this Forum as it has been discussed and there are links to more information. In the memorial section I have photos of the Canadian military cemetery at Dieppe and the cliffs of Dieppe. Some of the men in my Dad's artillery battery were killed there.

I would be more than happy to assist you in understanding more about Canada's role and to recommend other websites or books.

 

duplicat

 

A very good source of information on the history of the Canadian Military is the Department of Defense History Directorate. They have made several histories available by download here: DHH - Official Histories


Official history of the Canadian Army in the Second World War, Vol II The Canadians in Italy, 1943-19451956Nicholson, G.W.LE
Official History of the Canadian Army in the Second World War, Vol I Six Years of War1955Stacey, C.P.E
Official History of the Canadian Army in the Second World War, Vol III The Victory Campaign: The Operations in Northwest Europe, 1944-451960Stacey, C.P.E
Arms, Men and Governments: The War Policies of Canada, 1939-19451970Stacey, C.P.E
The Canadian Army, 1939-1945 : An Official Historical Summary1948Stacey, C.P.E
A History of Canadian Naval Aviation, 1918-19621965Kealey, J.D.F., Russell, E.C.E
The Naval Service of Canada : Its Official History. Vol 1, Origins and Early Years.1962Tucker, GilbertE
The Naval Service of Canada : Its Official History. Vol 2, Activities on Shore During the Second World War.1952Tucker, GilbertE
Official History of the Canadian Medical Services, 1939-1945, Vol 1 Organization and Campaigns1956Feasby, W.R.E
Official History of the Canadian Medical Services, 1939-1945, Vol 2 Clinical Subjects1953Feasby, W.R.E
The R.C.A.F. Overseas, Volume 1: The First Four Years1944Historical Section of the Royal Canadian Air ForceE
The R.C.A.F. Overseas, Volume 2: The Fifth Year1945Historical Section of the RoyalCanadian Air ForceE
The R.C.A.F. Overseas, Volume 3: The Sixth Year.1949Historical Section of the RoyalCanadian Air ForceE

• • Commemorative Histories
  • Official Histories
  • Official Lineages
  • General History

also see: DHH - CMHQ Reports 1940-1948 "During the Second World War, the Royal Canadian Navy, Canadian Army and Royal Canadian Air Force appointed Historical Officers to produce reports for future records and to form the basis of future Canadian Military Official Histories (ie Canadian Army Official History).

The most formal and comprehensive collection of reports were researched and written by Canadian Military Historical Officers at the Canadian Military Headquarters (CMHQ) in London, England (1940-1948).

Major (later Colonel) C.P. Stacey was appointed Historical Officer, General Staff, at the Canadian Military Headquarters in London, England, on 11 October 1940. His task, as conveyed to him by Lieutenant-General H.D.G. Crerar, Chief of the General Staff (the officer responsible for recommending Stacey's appointment) was “the collection and preparation of material for future use of the official historian and the placing on the record of historical material not otherwise recorded or available. 1

Every link is a new report on Dieppe:
The preliminary report on Operation Jubilee - Dieppe. DHH - CMHQ Report Details
The report on personal reports of those at Dieppe DHH - CMHQ Report Details
more on Dieppe DHH - CMHQ Report Details
more on Dieppe DHH - CMHQ Report Details
report on the raid DHH - CMHQ Report Details
more DHH - CMHQ Report Details
DHH - CMHQ Report Details
DHH - CMHQ Report Details
from German sources DHH - CMHQ Report Details
DHH - CMHQ Report Details
pictorial and cartographic materiel DHH - CMHQ Report Details
DHH - CMHQ Report Details
a review from 1946 DHH - CMHQ Report Details
DHH - CMHQ Report Details

 

Uhhhmmm, What are you talking about? We Canadians saw almost just as much action as Britian or the US... Try looking it up before making a thread next time please. Search up "RCAF" "Dieppe raid" "Juno beach raid" "Canada in the second world war" or anything like that.....You know what; fine here...
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My understanding is that the Canadians not only saw plenty of action but punched well above their weight...

 

Is it true that the British army supplied our Canadian cousins with worn out equipment, old Shermans,, White Scout cars and the like, when they fought in Italy.

 

http://www.canadianregister.co.uk/cmhq141.pdf and http://library.uvic.ca/site/spcoll/military/CLeppard.pdf "...

Arriving in Italy in early November 1943, the historians hit the ground running. By December, the Canadians were embroiled in two important engagements. The first was over equipment. Expecting to have British tanks waiting for it in Italy, 5 CAD had arrived in the Mediterranean Theatre without any equipment. They were replacing the 7​

th British Armoured Division, the famous "desert rats," who were sent home to prepare for the Normandy invasion slated for 1944. Rather than transporting two divisions and all of their equipment across the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean, the 5 CAD and 7th British Armoured agreed to swap matériel. Much to the Canadians’ consternation, when they arrived in Italy they found that a substantial number of 7th Armoured’s tanks had been sent to resupply units already in action. 2 ​

The equipment left over was in poor condition, having previously survived the North African Campaign. Consequently, 5 CAD and I Canadian Corps headquarters (which was designated to take command of 5 CAD and 1 CID) were unable to go active for over two months after they had arrived in theatre, while they hurried to solve their equipment problems.... "

For the Battle of Sicily, the 1st Division lost much of its equipment due to the sinking of one of its cargo ships. Convoy to Sicily - Looking for info
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/his/docs/CDN_ARMY_39-45_E.pdf

 

http://www.canadianregister.co.uk/cmhq141.pdf and http://library.uvic.ca/site/spcoll/military/CLeppard.pdf "...

Arriving in Italy in early November 1943, the historians hit the ground running. By December, the Canadians were embroiled in two important engagements. The first was over equipment. Expecting to have British tanks waiting for it in Italy, 5 CAD had arrived in the Mediterranean Theatre without any equipment. They were replacing the 7​

th British Armoured Division, the famous "desert rats," who were sent home to prepare for the Normandy invasion slated for 1944. Rather than transporting two divisions and all of their equipment across the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean, the 5 CAD and 7th British Armoured agreed to swap matériel. Much to the Canadians’ consternation, when they arrived in Italy they found that a substantial number of 7th Armoured’s tanks had been sent to resupply units already in action. 2 ​

The equipment left over was in poor condition, having previously survived the North African Campaign. Consequently, 5 CAD and I Canadian Corps headquarters (which was designated to take command of 5 CAD and 1 CID) were unable to go active for over two months after they had arrived in theatre, while they hurried to solve their equipment problems.... "

For the Battle of Sicily, the 1st Division lost much of its equipment due to the sinking of one of its cargo ships. Convoy to Sicily - Looking for info
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/his/docs/CDN_ARMY_39-45_E.pdf

 

I suspect that if a British disspersing officer heard a complaint from one of his Canadian allies, he might reply " Shut your gob!, we had to use vehicles captured from 'jerry' and from the 'eyeties' that still smelled of garlic and sourkraut mate!"

 

The hard part was that the 5th left behind new equipment from Canada because of a lack of transport ships, only to end up with broken down equipment.

 

I cannot praise enough the Valour and the Service these People from, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, Nepal, South Africa, Kenya & [FONT=&quot]Rhodesia[/FONT] plus other Nations in the Comonwealth who joined up for service in both wars to fight for a figure head thousands of miles away, so from an English Man Thank You.

 

I suspect that if a British disspersing officer heard a complaint from one of his Canadian allies, he might reply " Shut your gob!, we had to use vehicles captured from 'jerry' and from the 'eyeties' that still smelled of garlic and sourkraut mate!"

He might have said that, but would there be any truth to it? No doubt by then they had a few captured odds and ends, but I'm not aware of large-scale use, especially since the Germans, and even more so the Italians, were generally short on motor transport anyway.

A substantial share of Rommel's trucks in North Africa were captured from the British, along with the petrol to run them, so they probably captured some of their own vehicles back from him after Alamein.​

 

If Sherman is still around...I'm interested to learn....Why did you think Canada did not participate in any action in ww2? Blimey....The British relied on them big time. Even after Dunkirk. Their defence of Hong Kong was spectacular and they were treated revoltingly. Canada in the Atlantic took a major part of British responsibilities. Without Canada the story of ww2 would have been gravely different.

 

The following is from the war diary of just one Canadian regiment at Dieppe, The Queens Own Cameron Highlanders of Canada. "........... suffice to say here that the Camerons, with their comrades of the rest of 2nd Division, aquitted themselves gallantly and at heavy cost. One of the first to fall was Lt-Col Gostling, killed as he stepped ashore. In all, 82 all ranks were killed in action or died of wounds, 94 returned wounded to England, 170 remained in France as wounded or prisoners of war, and 173 of the original 513 answered their names when roll was called next morning".
Not much action there then.!!!!!! The reformed Camerons would land D-Day + 1 and fight through to Germany, taking part in some of the heaviest fighting in NWE.

 

On a slightly different note...Can any of our Canadian friends point me to info on units in Bordon or Headley Hampshire during ww2? Specifically communications if possible...Thanks chaps...and chappesses.