Since aliens are reported to have landed at Roswell, is there any way of coordinating the dates with the records of Radar installations of the day? I figure that Operation LASHUP(first post WWII radar defense system) may have been operating with 45 men of the 769th Aircraft Control and Intercept(I have also been told there were predecessors near this area that were temporary radar sites once Los Alamos needed guarding) assigned at Continental Divide Air Force Base(plus two other radar sites in New Mexico)----how would one find out this information? Did they see the balloon?.....if it was a weather balloon? Who keeps the records of what was spotted by operators? I can't find anything to answer my questions so I lay them before better researchers than I. Oh, Lashup was the first nuclear defense radar for the protection of Los Alamos and other New Mexico bases. Enquiring minds want to know......
well if the Radar sites had seen the baloon then they would to have been tracking it in some way, but if they had the 'baloon' on their radar and an alien spacecraft came up on the screen then that would to have been recorded asa an unidentified object and tracked. So in some form or another they would have recorded it if an alien spaceship was flying through the radar net (unless they had stealth tech making it impossible to track with early radar technology).
My personal theory is that any alien race sufficiently advanced to not only travel through space, but to have enough resources left over to dink around in our atmosphere and take notes and samples and upload Youtube vids is going to be advanced enough to avoid or completely ignore our radar, especially the earlier, primitive models. Of course, that's a completely unbiased opinion, and my handle in no way reflects (har) the existence (or non) of any sort of intelligent alien races in this universe. So STOP ASKING ME TO PROBE YOU!!!! (there's a waiting list)
my point exactly, A sentient race that has the capability to travel thousands and thousands of light years to reach us would have to be able to avoid radar detection and the likes, stealth tech now days doesn't completely erase the radar cross section from a radar screen it just makes it incredibly small and hard to see
I imagine this superior race of beings would have had the sence, at least, to avoid most people after a meal of pea and ham trotters, slow cooked.
If it happened...perhaps they wouldn't care if they were detected....after all what could we have done about it? If it didn't happen then we should have seen some weather balloons with the radar. In either case radar may have seen them....we won't know if we can't look at records..........and if they were so superior to us humans.....why did they wreck in the first place.....seems they would only be a little bit ahead of us technically. I do understand they could have stealth but why use it if their aircraft are so superior to ours at the time. I don't see any problem with the public seeing the records made that day at the various radar sites that might have been in operation. The military has stated it was a weather balloon.....so it would not hurt this explanation to show radar results. Perhaps our radar men were busy eating pea and ham trotters along with some brew that drew em all to town that day? By the way there is supposed to be one on the radar for today to make a drop....trying for a world speed record for the human body.
Actually the "weather balloon" story was closer to the truth than anyone even knew. However it was such a highly classified "weather balloon" (Project Mogul) that many working on it didn't know its purpose. It was designed to be a constant altitude balloon that could transverse the USSR and detect atomic detonations and measure radioactivity in the upper atmosphere and relay the information back to the USA. Of course this project failed, and they fell to earth. The Soviet atomic detonation of Joe One in 1949 was detected by high flying weather monitors in the Pacific, not the Mogul Balloons of two years earlier. The high altitude drop has been delayed due to weather/wind speed, and will be higher than another one made decades ago during the UFO/alien beings kerfluffle starting in the mid-fifties. Some of the test dummies were very "life-like", and showing exceedingly poor judgement were transported around on "gurnneys" like people would be. It was after brief glimpses of these test crash dummies that the alien body rumors started up. There is a good article on this in the PopSci online mag., I'll add it if I find it again. There is also a decent article on the Avro Car, which while never a supersonic flying saucer built in Canada and financed by the USAF, it could have been a really good "hovercraft" with a few modifications and a rubber skirt. Goto: CSI | The Roswell Incident and Project Mogul Here it is: http://www.popsci.com/technology/ar...s-felix-baumgartners-attempt-skydive-23-miles
Radar only covers a certain area and in 1947 it was very small areas. So it's not that uncommon for Alien spacecraft to 'avoid' detection simply by mistake or luck. I think we may give ourselves(or the Aliens), too much credit as in "Would Other-Worlders know about or even need "Radar"? IF there were any records, from White Sands for instance, I'm sure they would be buried so deep Dr Jones (Indiana Jones) would not be able to find them.
Perhaps we can find Indiana Senior to help too.........no fair debunking without researching radar..........remember there were three radar to triangulate so one of them could have seen something. I realize radar then was primitive, but if the government was paying for watchers, don't you think there would be a log book? I had to keep a log book just for operating a gas processing plant and that has much less significance.
exactly ! im a new member. and i think the aliens in question would most likely either make their pressence known without care or avoid completely.
If said craft crashed, then it did so for a reason. As such, clearly it was not fuctioning as intented, and it could possibly have lost its ability to hide its presence from even primitive technology.
Such an interesting subject....My best evidence would be "The Battle Of Los Angeles"... Pictures of something BIG in the sky...8 search lights had it in their sights, 90 mm batteries opened fire on it. 1400+ rounds were fired, at least 6 people died....So people back then were idiots, compared to today's evolved man, much less likely to shoot a 90mm projectile into the city because they got scared?lol. Folk were pretty stupid then, eh?...8 searchlights had something in their sights, and it slowly moved horizontally around the coastline. People followed it....Forward to Arizona. Phoenix 1997....Thousands witnessed a V shaped object slowly drift over the area...Aaand of course, people were ridiculed for reporting what they witnessed....Thousands upon thousands of reports over the millenniums....Ghosts do not exist either, despite all the reports contrary....Who decides what is real? Establishment? Consensus? Government? Religion?
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maybe the Alien craft was designed for different atmospherical conditions and when entering our atmosphere lost control due to its inablility to fly in our atmosphere and plowed into the desert in Roswell.
To reiterate; Radar was at the time still in it's infancy. This may help explain just a little of the ability near Roswell; "" Aside from the many, many technical problems with Frank's story, there is one, huge problem: There were no Radars at the Roswell Army Air Force base in July, 1947! Additionally, the White Sands radar was "... under-going continual modification and testing when not in use for actual tracking of missiles", and was very likely not suitable for round-the-clock surveillance operations. The document below was released through a FOIA request clearly shows that Roswell Army Air Force planes wanted to utilize the White Sands radar for radar counter-measures training, because the Roswell AAF did not have one of their own! (This is a document released under the Freedom Of Information Act. The original format has been preserved as much as possible.) "" The Roswell UFO Incident and the White Sands Radar
I find it rather unlikely that a craft that would have to travel light-years to reach the Earth would be unable to be unable to compensate for a bit of atmosphere. Try again, the classified high altitude balloon Project Mogul remains the most likely explanation. Launched from the Alamogordo area and falling to earth in the Rosewell area.