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How will Hitler be viewed in a thousand years?

Discussion in 'WWII General' started by Ken The Kanuck, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. KodiakBeer

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    Imperialism is in the dictionary. Look it up.
     
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    Nothing beats English humor :rofl:
     
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    Hey lads, some of you are getting oof topic. Remember this is a thread about History will remember Hitler in 1000 years. It's not whether the Che was a bastard or a..... bastard. So if you want to start a thread about him in the stump go ahead, but leave him out of this one; because I will move/close this thread at once.
     
  4. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WWII Veteran

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    Hitler proudly forecast that the Third Reich would last a thousand years.

    To my infinite joy, it succeeded in lasting just twelve years, from 1933 to 1945.

    I firmly believe that Hitler, coupled with his Third Reich will be forever branded for the utter obscenity that it was.

    Ron
     
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  5. Fred Wilson

    Fred Wilson "The" Rogue of Rogues

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    What Was the Turning Point of World War II? October 16, 1941? http://www.historynet.com/what-was-the-turning-point-of-world-war-ii.htm

    Stalingrad? The British "never lost" another battle after Malta and North Africa.

    At what point after that must it have been crystal clear to Hitler and his minions that the war was lost?
    That an isolated country faced with a defacto World War supplied by the combined might and weight of the United States and the British Commonwealth was unequivacably a lost cause?

    His phsycopathic atrocities from that point forward must have been deliberate, conscious and fully cognisant of the consequences to his name and legacy.

    What percentage of his own best troops were ordered to scuidide in defense of hopeless "fortresses" in battle after battle?
    What percentage of his own Generals were dismissed or died on the sword in defience of his orders and strategies?

    Clearly this was a conscious desision on his part to go down in flames as the worst mass murderer in history. For all time.
     
  6. rkline56

    rkline56 USS Oklahoma City CG5

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    The little corporal will bubble and sizzle in the cauldron (in the hottest spot) with Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Himmler, Heydrich, Mengele, Drug Cartel Warlords, Opium Warlords and Purveyors, Rwandan Genociders, Serb Cleansers and the leaders of other Death Squads around the world. What about the Grand Inquisitors - I think so from the sheer horror of their tortures.

    My question for the rogues, and I am sure it has been debated here: Does Chairman Mao make the list for the Cultural Revolution Famines? Does Stalin make the hot water for the Ukraine Famine, his Military and Intelligentsia purges, The Iron Curtain and Siberia? My votes; yes and yes (with Beria too).

    Yes, all of the human race will probably forget but the devil will get his due. One hopes there would be a few scholars left somewhere to carry the flame of knowledge. Poring over yellowed Holocaust documentation or faded manuscripts. Maybe like the Book of Eli where they are painstakingly transcribed for humanity's sake.
     
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    Yeah, sorry... The point I was trying to make was that other 20th century mass murderers are being resurrected as heroes by various people (Stalin, Mao), and that Che was an example of one here in the west.

    On that point, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Hitler is also resurrected as a hero. He's already a hero in a significant part of the Islamic world:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/10/youth-mag-associated-with-palestinian-authority-publishes-hitlers-sayings.html

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  8. Milleniumgorilla

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    In 1000 years Hitler will be either totally forgotten by the public like most historical figures or reduced to semi mythical status like Cesar, Charlemagne or Napoleon. In any case there won't be much detail left in the public consciousness.

    Grüße
    Philipp
     
  9. merdiolu

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    weird thing how perceptions change or revisionism strikes. Here we are sitting on our chairs or standing up writing comments about historyon our PCs or mobiles , eating three meals a day regularly and as much we want , living in a consumer society where a lot of things essential like food , medical services , education , law enforcement , a more or less steady economy and society are plenty or provided to everyone....Amusing thing is when Hitler unleashed the war on Europe and rest of the World and started genocide I am sure he wiped out most of these things. In war era or aftermatch even the people living in industrially and socio-politically advanced Western countries were living or lacking of a lot of things we took for granted in present times. Hitler's war seem romantic or adventous to next generations maybe because they never lived those impoverished austerity times. They never experienced air attacks on cities , rationing , travel ban , cencoring , conscription during wartime....War seems more like entertainment and adventure on XBOX now for everyone. As for genocide the people WHO try to justify it and find excuses for Nazis LOL I wonder they could think beyond how we can damage to other side ? thinking in sake of being contridictory and derogative against norms even it was proven historical facts.

    Hitler and and his regime just like any totalitarian regimes before or after would be regarded mostly as predetory aggressive tyranies as long as democratic and liberal western values stand. Once they were göne though I don't know.
     
  10. denny

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    Who knows...a thousand years (where have we heard that number before.?) is a long time.
    Was Jesus a real person.? Think how perverted his words and thoughts would seem to him today. Christians at war with each other...slaughtering each other by the tens of thousands in his name.
    Christians wanting control of the sexual, drug, and intellectual, habits of other Christians.
    Who knows how Hitler will be perceived.
    It will depend on who has power of "the media" and what they decide is "relevant and true".

    Regards to a lifestyle of plenty mentioned above...it is well received by myself. When I was young...0-20 year age...I did not understand my parents "thriftiness"...I was spoiled in a way and could not relate to their experience.
    They were both born in 1921. So the first 10 years of their life was frugal...then The Depression hit hard...things were BAD for 10 years...and then they were thrown into the biggest catastrophe of modern man, they had to be part of WW2.
    They were 30 years old before they started to see a light at the end of a very long tunnel.
    NOW I understand what they survived...and I regret my selfishness and immaturity.
    I hope they have forgiven me.
    best
     
  11. lwd

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    The fact that "Genghis Khan" along with Cesar and Charlemagne are not the real names of the historical figures certainly points to that in at least some cases. Counter examples exist as well though.
     
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    I know this may be the wrong forum, but speaking strictly from a European perspective, I think it very much depends on what happens here in the future. As it stands WW2 was the last conflict on Western European soil and the last where the major European powers were against each other.

    There have been many tyrants since then but none of them based in this part of the world.

    I think if there is another major war in Western Europe (I obviously hope there is not) then yes, I think Hitler may become a footnote.

    However, if there is not I think he will be remembered for what he was.

    What I do see for the future is a dumbing down of the facts to make it easier for people to understand, but we see that now anyway.
     

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