pampa14's Aviation Click Bait

Thank You Takao, since same link all threads merged to reduce clutter.

 

Hmmmmmm.... I've never seen this jet before in my life. It makes me wonder if the Germans just started recruiting 4 year olds to design their jets.

"I've got an idea! Let's just make a rocket and put rockets on it!"

"Great idea!"

If the Germans had developed jets earlier, the air war would have turned into something far more gruesome than it was. Changing the tide of the war? If it could somehow be engineered for ground attack it would be great. Too fast for AA, nose mounted rockets, and too fast for allied fighters. All it needs is accurate rockets and a pilot and this thing may have tipped the balance.

How successful would it have been against bombers though? The bf 110s were often fitted with rockets and, whenever they got past those P-47s (ok and the P-51), they dealt a lot of damage to bombers. I'm sure that if this thing flew, and the pilots fired off the rockets in groups... the allies would have a real problem on their hand.

Is there a name for thing? I'd like to look at it more but I don't see one on the website.

 

I've never thought about that....
I could only imagine a German aircraft carrier with the Tirpitz and Bismarck sitting next it (but maybe not the Tirpitz)... Sail on over the Atlantic and bomb away at all the shipping. Also, just imagine scout planes with ranges of over 750 miles calling out exact positions of every ship in the Atlantic and the U-boats listening in. But then, how important was the shipping? Would this have been the finishing touch with the Battle of Britain? This force could have dealt with the Royal Navy allowing operation Sea Lion to be put into effect... I'd rather not think about that. Or maybe the royal navy would attack this force in a huge naval battle and get rid of the problem before it causes anything.

 

That's the Ba 349 Natter. It could rocket up to 30,000+ feet in about a minute, make one pass at a bomber formation, fire its rockets in one salvo, then glide down; the pilot would bail out when he reached a suitable altitude. It never became operational; the only manned test flight was a failure and killed the pilot.

 

The Battle of Britain or Sealion had it happened would be decided by land-based aircraft; a carrier with 30-40 planes would not make much of a contribution. The Allies didn't use carriers for their cross-Channel operation, other than a couple of CVEs patrolling against U-boats in the western approaches to the Channel.

A carrier accompaying raiders like Bismarck in the Atlantic would be more of a problem for the British. They would have to deploy their own carriers, as they did against Bismarck and other raiders, and they might have to curtail some other missions like ferrying aircraft to Malta or Takoradi. I expect British naval superiority would win out in the end though. As with Graf Spee and Bismarck, any German ship that was engaged and damaged was in a dangerous situation.

 

I'm thinking though that the carrier would bring ship-killing Stukas and fighters the to the rear of England allowing them to kill Royal navy ships up there or expand fighter coverage to the full range of German land based bombers.
I guess an aircraft carrier wouldn't be much help though once Sea lion is going... other than providing an even faster means of rearming any aircraft capable of using the carrier. And I do agree that the Royal Navy would win against the Bismarck and a German carrier. The Germans would need way more ships if they wanted to start talking about destroying the RN to prepare for Sea Lion.

As it would seem, the best role for this force would just be attacking shipping. But at that role it would be very successful.

 

The British carriers are critical to the RN efforts to contrast the axis capital ships.
All a German carrier really needs to do is protect the battleships from the FAA and shadowing PBYs. Without aircraft attacks to slow the ships down and shadow them interception by the RN is problematic and that sort of air defence is probably within the capability of the Graf Zeppelin's air group. Offensive operations by the air group are to be avoided, except for getting rid of shadowing light forces, the big guns are more than enough, so no Stukas, just Me 109T (for lack of anything better) and Fi 167 for recon and attack. The limitation of this approach is that the air group will not be able to attack a British carrier, and attacking the carrier proved easier than stopping the planes in the Pacific battles but I'm not sure that applies with the small air groups we are talking about here, the Germans have no interest in knocking out RN carriers, their target is disrupting the convoys and getting an RN battleships if a favourable occasion, like an isolated R class, presents itself.

The task force can also come up with close to a dozen Ar 196 that can be an additional problem for the small RN air groups, when it comes to which side is likely to still have spotters in the air in case the Germans decide to fight my money is on the Me 109 supported Arados surviving while the British collection of Fulmar supported Walruses, Sea Otters, Swordfishes and Foxes gets wiped out.

Assuming Bismark, Prinz Eugen and the twins, such a force, until neutralized, will force the RN to provide heavy escort to all convoys in the areas they could reach, not sure the British can do that, they would need four or five groups to cover all the convoys. If something like Denmark straits happens each group will need 3 battleships and they do not have that many big ships, 16 in all with 2 probably under repair at any time and they need at least 3 in the Eastern Med if they want to avoid something bad happening there.

So before US entry such a task force is a nightmare for the RN, even if it's too big to be refuelled the same way the historical raiders were so will not be able to stay at sea for long. I would leave Prinz Eugen and her unreliable engines home, but if they do contact a poorly escorted convoy one more ship could make the difference between complete destruction and some ships getting away. No destroyers on either side as none have the legs to keep up with the big ships, though the RN may have a few with a convoy.

 

An interesting report with some curious photographs showing a Spitfire of the RAF carrying beer kegs under the wings. I've never seen this. Can anyone tell what the purpose of it ? To see these curious and unbelievable photos, visit the link below:


http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/01/um-armamento-curioso.html


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The beer barrels were part of an informal air freight arrangement for high value items, that strayed into the black market. Aircraft flying to airfields in Normandy would bring British beer and return with un-rationed Norman cider, Calvados, Camebert cheese and butter.

It is claimed that photo recce ace Adrian Warburton made resupply runs from Malta to pick up goodies from occupied Greece, landing his bomber on deserted beaches.

The tradition continued until at least the aftermath of the Falklands war it was not unknown RAF helicopter resupply flights to be scheduled on a semi commercial basis for a percentage of whatwever you weanted them to carry.

 

Developed shortly after World War II, the Twin Mustang was not involved in the conflict, however, as it would have been his performance against the German fighters? The P-82 had anticipated the end of the war? What do you think? The link below provides an interesting report about these questions and an extensive collection of photographs, some rare and unreleased for me. To see the full report and the photos visit the link below:


http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/03/north-american-p-82f-82-twin-mustang.html


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Looks clumsy but I could be wrong. The extra fuel tanks were the answer.

Considering the extra fuel tanks for Ju87R for the German Zeppelin it is a wonder they never thought of that for the Bf-109´s during BoB if the pilots kept on saying the battle time was too short to escort the bombers over England.

 

Crap. I was hoping against hope that he'd given up.

 

The Germans built a prototype twin 109, the 109z with the pilot in the left fuselage and a fuel tank in the faired cockpit of over right fuselage. I don't think it ever flew though.

They built a fair number of He111Zs though

http://worldwartwo.filminspector.com/2014/07/heinkel-he-111z-zwilling.html

 

An extensive, interesting and fantastic collection of color photos, many of them rare, showing aircraft and crews in action during WW2. These incredible pictures I share with you and can be viewed through the link below. Like me, I hope you will also be surprised and enjoy the photos.


http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/01/uma-visao-diferente-sobre-segunda.html

 

some of these look like HD pics.....the Japanese seaplane is a good one......are those local girls?? 'comfort' women? they look confident, ready...I would not think they would wear that headgear all the time in the tropics?
the lonely Japanese seaplane base ....forgotten..?

 

Remarkable pics, thanks for sharing!

 

That's because Pampa does not do his research homework and just copies photos from other websites.

Not all of those photos are from WW2, but are fairly modern. For instance, the Memphis Belle never had a chin turret...Yet, Pampa has posted a photo of the B-17G Sally B/Memphis Belle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_B
http://www.sallyb.org.uk/index.htm

And the photo of the pilot and copilot in the cockpit...Yeah, they were really using those headphones back in WW2.

 

yes, some look too 'new''

 

Could somebody explain to me what these German soldiers are burning in this photograph please??

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-01obSc8vzCY/Vr8BHKH1RSI/AAAAAAABeOk/OhLBAWwescc/s320/The%2BGerman%2Bpilots%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bbombers%2BHeinkel%2BHe-111%2Band%2Bsymbolic%2Bfuneral.jpg

 

I share with you this full report about the Japanese fighter jet Mitsubishi J8M, an effort to combat the growing advance of Allied bombers over Japan. Through the link below you will find a lot of information, photos, some rare and never seen by me before, details and in addition, diagrams and views. All this you can find by visiting the link below:


http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/j8m-espada-jato-japonesa.html


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