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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Ben Dover, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. m kenny

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    A race to the bottom and the dream of undercutting China on Labour costs?
     
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  2. m kenny

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    Watch your back. A soon as oversight is removed from UK firms you are likely to see your 'like' being eroded.

    https://www.ft.com/content/ebcc79e6-f50f-11e5-96db-fc683b5e52db


    They are “levelling off” weekend working premiums and other benefits, he says, and putting flexible terms into employee contracts such as “banked hours”, which means hours can vary without the need for overtime.

    The retailers B&Q, Tesco and Wilko have all cut some premium payments or other benefits in recent months, while raising base pay...............While many employers will still spend more on staff overall because of the introduction of the living wage, a survey from XpertHR found that a significant minority were pursuing a “zero-cost approach” by either cutting bonuses or discretionary payments (15 per cent) or the amount spent on staff benefits (11 per cent).
     
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    That's strange Ben, back in post #103 you were running a limited company "I have a limited liability company in the City of Westminster in Soho so I have to see any threat to UK export as bad, so any paying the EU to sell to as a block is therefore bad, it's a markup price imposed that the manufacturer won't see. If China don't have to pay to sell in Europe... Think of the future of the UK post Brexit. I study in Croydon, in Croydon Town Centre, and I live in Thornton Heath between Croydon Town Centre and Soho".

    Which is it, company director or agency employee?
     
  4. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    I'll go for wind-up merchant.
     
  5. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Weird to see countries and soon probably continents being cut in halves. The winner always sees he did not get the total victory, almost 50% were against. Close calls everywherere. ...
     
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    Perfectly possible to be an Agency worker offering services via his own Limited company. Lots of them about and perfectly legitimate. Could also have two careers etc. Quite common to register a Limited company and then offer services via an Agency/Service company, this is, in fact, a normal way of working for, say, Interim Project Engineers.

    Over to Ben!
     
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    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    Fair enough, let's hear from the man.
     
  8. m kenny

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    Popular vote not even close in the USA.

    The problem is not that one side wins but that (in the UK) the side that won is insisting on total silence and obedience from those that lost. Compromise is an alien concept to them. They want absolutely everything to be on their terms. Truth is no one gets a knockout here and their pain is to come when the EU extracts its revenge in the negotiations. Not a good idea to hurl childish national insults at those who have the means to retaliate in more concrete ways.

    Interesting article here that shows just how scared May is of Scotland holding another vote on splitting from the UK.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/02/michael-fallon-uk-government-could-block-a-scottish-referendum

    Though not imminent Scottish Independence is inevitable in the long term. Then the little englanders will get-a little UK!
     
  9. Ben Dover

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    My LTD hasn't got a business license for that, alas, though company director of my own company, I still have a job, employed by a couple of agencies; tell you the truth, I'm a full time student and as soon as I pass year 1 and enrol to year 2 I'd be living off of student finance again, but right now I rely on my job to pay the bills.
    According to this there's only 1 license between me and doing that <- EDIT.
    https://www.gov.uk/licence-finder/licences?activities=6_16&location=england&sectors=135
    I might need to get them insured/COUPLED with 'am I insured as an agency worker?'
    or, does or is it because the client is insured to have a construction site and that's part of site induction, so I believe insuring the admin staff are still needed but as for my constructors...
    It seems to me to be about loyalty and good deals; so lower prices but keeping a happy work force coupled with big contracts already in place loyal to existing agencies... If this could be... Better sold; more cost effective and done with a good reputation; I don't see why not? It's hardily something I'd want to do though, just saying...
    Giving somebody a great deal means your work force might not be paid so much per hour. Have to work out where I can cut costs, I for one can do it for a zero hours contract employed at £1.00 per year, I don't mind doing that if it gets me a business diploma too and student finance pays me and this in turn pays it back?
    Can I pay myself like £0.17 x 6 per 1 years worth of 90 day contracts. Is there a period of these zero hour contracts like 90 days or a year or what?
     
  10. Brian Smith

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    Your grasp on understanding simple facts seems weak. There was no mention of removing anyone, just an observation that if the EU is such a land of milk and honey still time to flee the apparent sinking ship (not). The only issue I have with the remoaners is that they cannot understand the word out. Being a union man I would have thought you would get the point, if your union votes by any majority to go out you go out, you do not stay in a bit.
     
  11. m kenny

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    Semantics. We all know what you meant. It is just a slight re-wording of what you and your ilk shout at brown skinned people every day-'if you don't like it here why don't you f**k Off back to your own country'.
    I guess you just cant help your National Front sympathies.
     
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    Sums you up, predictable and pathetic. Where racism and NF came from no idea, all in your very tiny mind?
     
  13. m kenny

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    I got you pegged. I know your type. Here is a UKIP racist who, like you, lets the mask slip

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwA681CM7QE

    The error is the use of the phrase 'ting-tong'
     
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    You are acting like a neurotic and someone in need of help. If childish name calling is as far as you can get with those you do not agree with and on points you have no answer for I genuinely feel sorry for you. I never have and will not now kick someone when they are down.

    You just need to cool down and read exactly what I said and the context it was said in and stop making assumptions about people you do not know based on your own pathetic prejudices.

    Your post includes a phrase I have never used and show how low you are sinking here.
     
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    Let you in on a little secret, I could not give a rats arse what you call me or what you think of me. Unlike like you I just shrug it all off. You however seem incredibly thin-skinned and unable to deal with opposition. If you want to believe I am stupid then have at it. I clearly have you rattled given the increasing shrillness of your replies.
    I will leave others to judge who is 'down' and who is doing the 'kicking'

    Your medication must be working-you have not blamed Germany for anything in the last couple of posts!
     
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    That is not a secret it is your attitude, as with all small minded people, towards anyone who does not think as you do. For the record my skin is fine but just looking for the opposition you mention that I have trouble with - no I thought not, there is none.

    You do like to attribute statements to me I have not made, racist, no, Germany, no, get back home, no; you do need to learn to deal with what is before you rather than make things up.

    Anyway off now to have a good laugh at the Scots who still have not realized, as you, that out is out and still think they can remain part of the EU. Just when will these remoaners realize the world has moved on?
     
  17. belasar

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    Enough Already!

    If a response can not be made without a personal insult,

    Do Not Make It!
     
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    When the SNP hold a new referendum on Independence then we will see how keen you are on letting the people speak. For them there is going to be a second bite at the cherry. I suspect your enthusiasm for 'letting the people speak' will have waned by then. Time will tell.
     
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    A tiny minority of Scots. The rest of us have more than two brain cells.
     
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    Yes you keep saying The SNP are unpopular in Scotland and yet they keep winning 'biggly'. Truth is you are the one out of step in Scotland and are completely unrepresentative of the average voter there. Scotland is strongly 'Socialist' and always has been to the left even of the Labour Party.
    The SNP are going to use the Brexit Vote to have another Independence Referendum and lets see how it will turn out given Scotland as a whole voted 62% stay & 38% leave.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results


    One could be forgiven for thinking you would never be in favour of a Nation deciding its own destiny...............
     

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