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  1. Patte62

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    I'm researching Information (Documents, Pictures, others) about the following men, serving in the Royal Artillery in WW2

    1. Gunner COLCLOUGH Francic McClellan (Service N° 1823060) - Serving into the Royal Artillery 279 Bty 67 Lt. A.A. Regt. - Died on 1st November 1941 - Buried @ Glasgow (Riddrie Park) Cemetery - Age 20 - Son of William and Christina McPherson McClellan Colclough of Govanhille, Glasgow
    2. Gunner CORCORAN John (Service N°11257679) - Serving into the Royal Artillery 304 Bty 98 Lt. A.A. Regt - Died on 22nd December 1941 - Buried @ Whittington (St.Giles) Churcyard - Age 39 - Son of Thomas and Sarah Cocoran and husband of Mary Cocoran, Maghull, Lancashire
    3. Bombardier MALLENDER Alexader William (Service N° 1543878) - Serving into the Royal Artillery 181 Bty 60 Lt. A.A. Regt - Died on 25th December 1941 - Buried @ Aldershot Military Cemetery - Age 38 - Son of Alexander and Susanah Mallender and husband of Ivy Mallender of Aldershot
    4. Gunner SCOTT John (Service N° 1755268) - Serving into the Royal Artillery 314 Bty 124 Hy. A.A. Regt - Died on 23rd October 1941 - Buried @ Chichester Cemetery - Age 36
    5. Gunner KEELING Henry (Service N° 1473604) - Serving into the Royal Artillery 181 Bty 60 Lt. A.A. Regt - Died on 25th December 1941 - Buried @ Liverpool (Kirkdale) Cemetery - Age ..?.. - Son of Thomas and Jane Keeling from Everton and husband of Alice E. Keeling from Liverpool
    6. Gunner James SUTHERLAND (Service N° 1560313) - Serving into the Royal Artillery 181 Bty 60 Lt. A.A. Regt - Died on 25th December 1941- Buried @ Clyne New Burial Ground - Age 29 - Son of John and Catherine Sutherland of Brora
    In the Records of the Royal Artillery it's mentionned that they all died result of an Accident, but no further detail, also not in the Records of CWGC. By one of the Familymembers I've been told that the Accident happened during a Blackout in Surrey for some of them (Gnr. Sutherland, Keeling and Cocoran) so I suppose during the period of 'The Blitz'

    Any Information, how little it can be is more than welcome.

    Thanks to all for the help !
     

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    Gunner James Sutherland
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    I am unsure as to why you are not asking these questions on the sister forum ww2talk.com

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    From another member of ww2talk.com, the reason for 3 of the deaths are:
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    Thanks T.D. :salute:
     
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    Francis Colclough was born 1921 in the Calton area of Glasgow. See attached for potential siblings names born in the same area.

    His parents William & Christina McPherson married 1914 also in the Calton area.

    From the property Valuation Rolls for Glasgow, his father is listed as living at 26 Polmadie Street, Govan in 1925 and 81 Hickman Street, Govan in 1930.

    Francis death was recorded in the Longside District of Scotland and this appears to be in the Aberdeenshire area. His death details can be viewed at https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/?gclid=CIerwcvqmdICFY0W0wodeOAI6Q for a few credits. This will give you the cause of death. Should you buy the credits to view the death details look out for any entry that says 'RCE' before you open this record. If RCE is available to view for 2 credits this will give you additional details if the Registrar had to update/correct the Death Register for any reason.
     

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    thanks for the intel Mutley
     
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    Francis died from gun shot wounds. I'll post the images later and after I've had a chance to decipher the awful writing!
     
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    This is my best shot deciphering the corrections to his death entry.

    "Register of Corrected Entries for the District of Longside in the County of Aberdeenshire. The following Report of Results of a Precognition has been recorded following the death of Francis McLellan Colclough registered under Entry 720 27 in the Register Book of Deaths for the year 1941

    Name, Age & Sex - Frances McLellan Colclough, 20 years, male

    When & Where Died - Between 6am and 7am on 1st November 1941 near the aerodrome Longside, Aberdeenshire

    Cause of Death - Shock and Haemorrhage following a rifle bullet wound involving the chest and abdomen. Certified by Dr. R Richards and Dr. P. J. S. MacDonald, Aberdeen who conducted Postmortem examination of the body.

    Procurator Fiscal Office, Aberdeen 18th November 1941. Certified by Mr. J. Robertson, Procurator Fiscal at Longside, 30th September 1942"

    This form and the original death entry do not state whether the wounds were self inflicted, accidental or otherwise.

    I wonder if the War Diary may shed some more light on his death. I'm now curious where the Postmortem report might be?

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    You will need to apply to the Registrars Office in Chichester for a copy of his death certificate which will give you a 'Cause of Death'. Note that he died in Oct 1941 but his death was not officially registered until Dec 1941 as below.

    https://www.westsussex.gov.uk/births-marriages-and-deaths/

    John Scott in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

    Name: John Scott
    Birth Date: abt 1906
    Date of Registration: Dec 1941
    Age at Death: 35
    Registration district: Chichester
    Inferred County: Sussex
    Volume: 2b
    Page: 872

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    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: John Corcoran
    Given Initials: J
    Rank: Gunner
    Death Date: 22 Dec 1941
    Number: 11257679
    Birth Place: Liverpool
    Residence: Liverpool
    Branch at Enlistment: Royal Artillery
    Theatre of War: United Kingdom
    Regiment at Death: Royal Artillery
    Branch at Death: Royal Artillery

    He also appears (as does Colclough) to have died as a result of an accident

    View attachment 25601


    I have no further info
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    Glad you found John Corcoran Tricky, as there are two of the same name in the Scottish returns, a 21 & 23 year old! Didn't think Corcoran would be a common name in Scotland, but I was wrong.

    James Sutherland died from a brain tumour and paralysis of half of the body at Glasgow Infirmary. He'd been suffering for a year poor lad.

    If I can get some peace to myself and alone with the computer in the morning, I'll grab the images. James's wife registered his death, both his parents were deceased before his own death.

    Edit: I've got the wrong Sutherland, I'd overlooked the news article!
     
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    The original death entry for Colclough
     

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    Thanks Mutley... appriciate this :salute:
     
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    Thanks TD .... precious intel for me :poppy:
     
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    TD also for this one :salute:
     
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    Mutley thanks...the cause of death of James Sutherland was a car accident during a blackout... I've had the intel by TD about this incident, involving 3 soldiers.
     
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    Thks Mutley... precious intel also..... :salute:
     
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    ​​I'm a lot further with my requests for those men....so many thanks to all who helped already. Anything else will always be welcome. :flag_Belgium: :sunglasses-peek:
     

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