Marshall Zhukov

Reading the final chapter of the Great Crusade.

Ike mentions that his correspondance with Zhukov ended abruptly and he never heard from him again.

What was Zhukov's fate?

 

I do recall that Zhukov was getting too big for his post after the war as he got his name in the western papers and "huge" interviews etc and Stalin sent him somewhere deep in the USSR to take care of miltiary busines and learn again who was the boss!! Later on in the 50´s he was trying to get to the power again with Molotov but Kruschev beat them to it.

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sM8QAn-sR...elated&search=

Zhukov in the Moscow victory parade, riding Stalin's white horse with Rokossovsky on another!

Also, the Moscow Victory Parade in colour (well, probably colourized but I'm not sure)

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2) http://youtube.com/watch?v=soAHzsIQc3o&mode=related&search=

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He should have not been riding that white horse on Moscow's Victory Parade.

Nice colour footage of the Moscow's Victory Parade. Well done Za.

 

Something one has to keep in mind when living under the shadow of a dictator. Never, ever show him up. What was it that was whispered to those Roman generals who held their 'triumph' through the streets of Rome, "Thou art mortal".

 

Well, Zhukov obviously tried to take to large piece of an apple pie. He made big mistake, when he tried to take power and controll over USSR. He left to give in charge some of "old comrades" and (that was the mistake) said, that "there are many other "criminals", between our comrades, we know about them, but this time we let them free". This displayed too soon his purposes and they all well remembered recently deceased Stalin and his "purges".
But he was too famous and so he cannot be just... removed definitely, so he was putted out of any power. I think, that if he suceeded, there might have been another Stalin here, this time with nuclear weapons, though. And how he treated with those weapons, he showed on some military exercises in fifties...
I am glad he did not to reach the power, because I like Fallout only as a computer game, not in real world.

 

What.....Zhukov another Stalin?!?! To say that I disagree would be an understatement!

But I would put Zhukov above Rommel, only by a small margin

 

Zhukov was "retired" to Odessa shortly after the surrender was signed, I believe that is where he last communicated with Eisenhower (or Churchill?) from. He was sent off to a desk job somewhere as Stalin and his people thought he may end up being trouble. I don't know the specifics.

 

That was in 1947 only, when Stalin sent him out to pasture. In 1953 after Stalin's death he was recalled as Deputy Defense Minister, took the lead part in arresting Lavrenti Beria, was Defense Minister in 1955, orchestrated the invasion of Hungary in 1956 (ah, well...).

In 1957 he fell out with Khruschev, who sent him out to pasture I don't know where, but was rehabilitated by Brezhnev (of all things!) in 1964 and finally died in 1974 being buried with full miitary honours.

ODM of the Russian Federation: Order of Zhukov

Chuikov64, you have chosen an honourable name too. Here he is, in good company!

 

Here is an interesting article about Zhukov and a rebuttal from someone that sees his history from a little different perspective:

Orange Ukraine - Long Articles - The Man Who Defeated Hitler?

tom

 

I have heard so many of those "rebuttals" in my years of reading that I find a lot of them of dubious credit. In fairness no more worthy than the articles they are meant to rebut.

I don't believe for a second that Zhukov had those officers he considered unnecessary or who made a mistake shot in the back of the head. What in the hell is the point? It's all exaggeration to me and I find it contemptable. It distorts the most valuable resource humanity has. History.

I'm sure Zhukov made his mistakes, all generals do. I'm sure that the Russians exaggerate the crimes of the Germans but I have seen too much evidence in european Russia to write it all off as lies. The same goes for the atrocities of the Red Army in Prussia/Germany.

War is not a nice affair. I hope we can discuss this without a flamewar. If anyone wants too.

 

My post was not meant as a flame. Just giving a point of view from somebody who didn't lionize Zhukov.

tom

 

Za Rodinu.

I want to see that someday, it is a dream of mine.

 

Where is that? Stalingrad/Volgograd?

 

Stalingrad is correct!

 

PARDON


Volgograd now Stalingrad then.

 

I hear you. It's just really frustrating to me when I read articles that are meant for other reasons than constructive ones.