Havent seen it yet--but are planning to do so wednesday and will let you know. From the trailers I have seen--it looks good--very good--even though I dont care much for Nick Cage.
I still feel like John Woo is having his way with my face saying "You paid $6.00 for this"... Some sequences were interesting and well worth it, but the rest of the film was not exactly enjoyable. Watch for "memorable" scenes in which Nic Cage takes 5 shots from his Colt and downs 5 Japanese Troops from a range of about 50 yards... Many of the people in the theater found the movie altogether humourous.
I agree Modus, this is definitely not a film that people will look back on in 25 years as a war classic.
OK I guess I'm going to have to step forward and defend Woo again. I throughly enjoyed the movie, mostly because I had an idea what to expect, so I wasn't dissapointed. John Woo is one of my favourite directors. He is very stylistic, his action scenes have in the past been described as being choreographed like a ballet. I'm sure in Woo's mind he did not make a war movie, but a movie about good and evil, and the duality within one man. It just happened to be set during a war. Many of the film's actors were in it because they trusted Woo, and like Cage and Slater had occured in earlier movies for him. The problem with this movie is that it was not marketed properly, so people went expecting one thing but got another. That doesnt make it a bad movie, Pearl Harbour was a bad movie. Geeze I'm begining to sound like a film student!
It wasnt a bad movie. The action sequences were pretty intense, moreso thAN SPR becuz this was the pacific. The only problem i had with it was the hellcats they had flying around, they werent flying like real airplanes.
Welcome to the forums Carl v. Mannerheim: BTW--I have an original photo of Mannerheim--the Finnish Fieldmarshall)) and I think I sent a copy of this press foto to Otto--ask him if he has it and can make you an avatar. Also--great choice in avatar pic--thats Werner Molders in 1940, as he is being interviewed by a Luftwaffe Propaganda Kompanie Leutnant.
Warning: Spoilers LOL I thought I was the only person who noticed that. I walked out and said to my friend "How the f--k do they expect us to believe Nick Cage turns around and without aiming a shot, clears off a hill with a .45 from God knows how far away?" The use of stock footage killed me as well. I was ready to leave at that point. In a minor way this movie was kind of a ripoff SPR...with Nick Cages midbattle mental breakdowns, him protecting one guy and at the end, dying while the man he protected clutches him. The action scenes were good sometimes but confusing. I could have used a few more minutes of that girl from Bedazzled too...she's cute.
I didn't like Windtalkers-the footage was laughable-it reminded me of a 1960s film!!! The action sequences were good but altogether unbelievable-it was just an excuse for the whole gung-ho salute to the Marines-but it was ok considering John Woo's main field of karate action !!!! Enjoyable-but it didn't have the historical accuracy i need in a WW2 flick...
Well, I will have to wait a bit to answer this thread, because I have not watched it yet , but I will in the next two weeks.
I went to go see it and had no problems for a work of FICTION. As a work of FICTION--I thought it was very enjoyable and well worth the money I spent.
I must say that I wondered what you were all talking about - but 'Windtalkers' is released in the UK this Friday. The first batch of reviews is dire - 'breathtakingly awful' is one quote - but we shall see.....
I found the movie to be not that great, I agree with Modus's post. I loved that part where Cage fires 5 non aimed/looking in the right direction shots from his Colt and kills five japs who were not even visible till a second earlier. Don't waste your money, wait till its on HBO. Nick
Id would say give it a chance--BECAUSE it wasnt meant to be totally and historically accurate, as I said before--it was a work of Fiction in a real setting with some real events. Nothing wrong with that--is there? If so, then you HAVE to take all the classic war movies, and place them in the same catagory with Windtalkers. I went and watched it again--and liked it as much as I did when I saw it the first time. I saw U 571, and Enemy At The Gates several times as well, and also Behind Enemy lines (not a ww2 movie) besides some inaccuracies in details--these fimws were great. Yes, a few peoples combat characteristics are greatly expanded (most likely for the younger viewers) but who really cares? the story was a good one. Remember--if you do NOT support the war movies coming out--they will NOT try to make anymore good ones. Comprende, Capiche, Verstanden! Accurate or not so accurate--believable or not so believable--these movies SHOULD be supported--or else all you will see is junk like: Fried Green Tomatos, OR even worse yet: Thin Red Line.
Agree with you in almost everything, Carl! Except that the Thin Red Line was a very, very good film in my opinion. I like it. It is not a war film. It is a phylosophycal one (spelling?), very heavy if you're not in the right mood to watch it. But it is very good indeed, because all the thoughts it has. It is like bringing some Greek phylosophers back in life again, but with army helmets. Beside, the photography is delicious!!! Excellent!!! And the music is superb!
I have to partly agree with you, Friedrich. 'Thin Red Line' was certainly not the greatest film of all time - I found a lot of it, especially toward the end - rather silly and boring. But I certainly recall the long section concerning the attack on the hill as being very well done. Overall, Malick was trying to do a 'different' war film - it just didn't quite work......
Sorry guys--I just couldnt stand the film. I hated the first 30 minutes, the last 30 minutes and almost everything in between. I had never been so thoroughly bored watching a war movie that COULD have been a good one. Believe me, I have seen plenty of war movies with much more drama than action in it--and for the most part--were good to excellent movies However, I did give TRL three chances to change my mind, but no, it just didnt happen. The original version at least had good acters in it(the only one that comes to mind at the moment is: Jack Warden, who I like as an actor. I remember watching it and being so bored with it that I started to read a book while awaiting something to happen. Another movie that comes to mind that was mostly drama and little action that I at first disliked is: D-Day--the 6th of June. The first time I saw it, I thought it was a VERY bad excuse for a war movie. The first thing that changed my mind about the way the movie was done was, I did some research and found that the movie was a good portrayal of the real event. The second reason I started to like it is because I like the actor: Robert Taylor, as he was in it. I forget who the other actors in it are but it doesnt matter--I now like the film very much. There is another war movie--takes place in ww1 and had Kirk Douglas as a Frainch soldier. I happen to like Kirk Douglas too. I cant remember the name of this movie--but it was mostly drama, but was very well done. Does anyone remember a movie called: The Last Grenade?" its one I saw a few times as a kid, but havent seen it in probably 25 years.
Carl: And I know what film you're talking about, it's Kubrick's. In WWI when Kirk Douglas plays a French colonel and his regiment must take the "Anthill", an untakeable German position. His senior general wants it done at once, but the losses are too high and the advance is totally stopped. Then, the general gets mad and calls the men cowards and tries to make them go out of the trenchers by firing his own artillery on them! But fortunately, an artillery captain refuses... But then, the general wants to shot all the regiment. "Cowards! If they don't face German bullets, they will face French ones!!!"... And goes on... But I can't remember the name...