OK, Ok... This may well have to be resolved from the Russians themselves. Trouble is, how do we know they are on the level? The former Soviet Union and the modern state of Russia are both not very well known for objective accuracy in their official histories, and the people seem too ashamed of the so called consequences to get the truth out of them, or too busy trying to defend the dignity of their people. Whom does one believe? The Red Army's casualty figures post Stalingrad would certainly suggest that many people are whitewashing the whole issue. I ask again....whom does one put their faith in as a perpetrator of the truth? Is it EVER going to be possible for the truth to appear?