Yes, I have, Captain, Sir. I have DEVOURED them! I was in a satiric corner, Sir. Sorry, Sir. OK for a start I'm not American so knock off the "Sir. Sorry, Sir." business, neither am I an officer and like almost everyone on here I pay almost no attention to the forum ranks at all, they're an interesting distraction but basically meaningless. You want an actual order with a time and date? Probably doesn't exist, like a lot of Nazi policies it basically evolved. Hitler wanted a big army to impress the world prior to WWII, he wanted large tank formations for parades which is one reason that I've read why the Panzer I and Panzer II were kept in production long after they'd exceeded any kind of value as military machines (Panzer I especially), they were cheap and quick to build and hundreds could be churned out for military parades. So what if they were militarily a waste of time, they looked good! Flypasts look best with the greater number of aircraft, so the Nazis naturally prefered a flypast of 100 aircraft to one of 40. But also the Luftwaffe was to be used for a purely tactical war, it was to be to flying artillery of the Wehrmacht, with that in mind 4 engine heavies would be unnecessary, twin engine mediums and Stukas would be needed. In all honesty the Germans were probably best off with the airforce they had, I seriously doubt a heavy bomber fleet could have had any significant impact. But , seriously: I am not fool enough not to believe in German designers´ capabilities. Oh no? How come, thay could devise a ballistic missile and put it in large scale production, but to take a carcass, screw 4 motors to it and make a mass product out of it - that - they couldn´t . Your own words. I will say again, they could and did. On a large scale they chose not to. What I am "fighting for" is showing that Hitler´s regime was just as irrational as Le Corporal himself. People were corrupt, stupid, afraid of Hitler or all three (and more) simultaneously. I don't think anyone here disagrees with that, what I was arguing was that if the Germans chose to go down the route of a predominantly four engine long range heavy bomber fleet they could easily have done so, and probably early than the RAF. Overall though it probably would have made for a less effective airforce if used within the confines of what it was intended for.