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Discussion in 'Weapons & Technology in WWII' started by chromeboomerang, Jan 23, 2007.

  1. chromeboomerang

    chromeboomerang New Member

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    Twas the fat one as it turns out who put the brakes on this machine. If it instead of 210 & 410 were built,( imagine 1160 335's instead of 1160 410's ),& contrary to what others have stated here, it would no doubt have had an appreciable effect on the air war. Could well have made a decent nightfighter as well. & in fighterbomber role would have had no peer. Could do 350 mph on one engine, therefore take more battle damage than a 47, much faster, & with 5 cannon, throw more lead.


    "1940 when Reichsmarschall Goering, anticipating a quick end to the war, ordered the cancellation of all work which would not see fruition within a year or so."


    Per "Illustrated Encyclopedia of Military Aircraft," 1,160 Me 410's were built by war's end.


    The origins of the Dornier Do 335's novel layout go back to the First World War. During the war Prof. Claude Dornier designed a number of flying boats, which typically featured a tandem engine installation. The engines were mounted back-to-back in pairs, with the forward unit driving a tractor airscrew and the aft facing unit a pusher propeller. This engine arrangement was subsequently adopted for the highly successful Dornier Do J Wal (Whale) flying boat of 1922.
    In 1935 Dornier produced the Do 18, a much improved development of the Wal concept. To enable the pusher propeller to clear the trailing edge of the broad chord wing featured on this type, an extension drive shaft from the rear engine was introduced for the first time. The idea of placing the pilot between the two engines in such an arrangement obviously occurred to Dornier. Indeed, on 3rd August 1937 he filed patent number 728044 for an aircraft of just such a configuration. It was on the basis of this patent that the Do 335 came to be developed.
    During 1939 Dornier was busy working on the P 59 high speed bomber project, which featured the tandem engine layout patented earlier. Work on the P 59 was stopped in early

    "1940 when Reichsmarschall Goering, anticipating a quick end to the war, ordered the cancellation of all work which would not see fruition within a year or so."


    Despite this setback, Dornier soon began working on another unarmed high speed bomber project - the P 231. With an internal bomb load of 2200 lb, this design used a similar configuration to that of the P 59. In May 1942 Dornier submitted a refined version of the P 231 design in response to a Technische Amt requirement for a single seat high speed bomber. The Dornier proposal was selected as the winner after beating rival designs from Arado and Junkers. Despite official resistance to the unconventional layout, a development contract was awarded under the RLM designation Do 335.
    In the Autumn of 1942, with detail design progressing, Dornier were informed by the RLM that the Do 335 was no longer required. In the light of the massive Allied air raids which had begun that year, the aircraft was to be redesigned as a multi-role fighter of broadly similar performance. Capable of duties as a single-seat fighter bomber, high speed reconnaissance, heavy fighter, and two seat night and all-weather interceptor.
    However, the Technische Amt delayed issuing a formal contract, and Dornier eventually turned to the Inspector-General of the Luftwaffe, Generalfeldmarschall Milch, to expedite matters. The necessary redesign had been completed, and the first metal cut on the prototypes at Oberpfaffenhofen by the end of 1942.
    As construction of the prototypes proceeded, the war situation was growing more serious. On 7 June 1943, Hitler himself intervened to expedite the Do 335 and Me 262 programmes. However, on 7 Sept 1943 Messerschmitt persuaded Hitler that the Me 262 would be a better suited as a high speed bomber than the Ar 234 or Do 335, and the Me 262 received sole priority.


    There were plans to convert the two-seat version (double canopy) into a nightfighter mounting a MK 114 which was a 55-mm cannon with a firing rate of 150 rounds per minute. In addition, there were plans to have a Jumo 213 jet engine in the rear, and plans for a Do 335 Zwilling (twin like the f-82 twin Mustang).
     
  2. TA152

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    Say Chrome, you have 897 posts invested in the forums why do you want to get banned by beating the Do-335 to death ? Let it rest in peace. :cool:
     
  3. chromeboomerang

    chromeboomerang New Member

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    Cause its an interesting machine,( a good answer to the Mosquito ), & why should I let 1 or 2 sour posters ruin it? Not my cup of tea. & It is the cats that spoil threads with personal stuff that should be banned.
     
  4. Peppy

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    Interesting machine or not, a few threads have been shut down by Otto in the past few days and they all have one member in common. Can anyone guess who?

    If it were up to me, I would have dished out bans already. Fortunately for others, I don't call the shots around here, Otto does. He is much more patient than most, but when his patience runs out, and it seems it's getting that way judging by his recent post in the gun comments thread, people get tossed, for good.

    Carry on...
     
  5. chromeboomerang

    chromeboomerang New Member

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    Perhaps chatting the subject material would be a more appropriate use of board space Peppy. & you'll recall the heat was instigated by another poster.
     
  6. chromeboomerang

    chromeboomerang New Member

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    Compared side by side, the 410 & 335 would seem to use similiar amounts of material. Which one would require more man hours to produce is not known to me.


    The Do 335 specs:

    Wt loaded = 21,160 lbs.
    Span = 43' 3-1/3"
    L = 45' 5-1/4"
    H = 16' 4-7/8"

    Me 410 specs:

    Wt loaded = 21,276 lbs.
    Span = 53' 7-3/4"
    L = 40" 11-1/2"
    H = 14' 1/2"
     

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