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  1. geee2252

    geee2252 Member

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    Hi
    I am trying to decifer my father's discharge papers and I have no idea where to look!
    here is the information and maybe someone can tell me atleast what unit my dad was in.........thank you in advance.........

    4. arm or service- CAV
    5. component- AUS
    6. organization- 1st RCN TROOP
    32. battles and campaigns- ARDENNES RHINELAND GO 33 WD 45 AS AMENDED
    33. decorations and citations- WOLD WAR II VICTORY MEDAL, PURPLE HEART GO 20 HQ 52ND GH 3 APRIL 45, GOOD CONDUT MEDAL, ARMY OF OCCUPATION MEDAL, EUROPEAN, AFRICAN MIDDLE EASTERN CAMPAIGN MEDAL
    34. wounds received in action -ETO 2O MARCH 45
    40. reasons and authority for seperation- CONV OF THE GOVT AR 615 365 15 DEC 44 RR 1-1 DEMOBALIZATION
    55. remarks- LABEL BUTTON ISSUED 95 DAYS LOST UNDER AW 107 ASR SCORE 2 SEP 45 9


    thank you to anyone who can help me with getting information or translating this for me
     
  2. geee2252

    geee2252 Member

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    If anyone can help and translate this for me! lol......what unit was he in, campaigns he was in? etc. I have no idea what I am looking at and searching on the internet didn't help. I do know he was at Rhineland where he was wounded.......
    thank you in advance
    Gail
     

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  3. Spartanroller

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    Hi again

    To start with he was a radio operator in a cavalry reconnaissance troop (1st) although I haven't figured out which formation that was attached to yet, most infantry divisions had an independent cavalry recon troop attached as divisional resources (don't worry we'll get there)

    When he was wounded he was treated in the 52nd General Hospital

    More will come :)
     
  4. LRusso216

    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    OK, here's a start. Your father was in the 1st Recon Troop, which was part of the 1st Infantry. He was trained as a Radio Operator, and qualified as a Sharpshooter with the M1.
    He is entitled to the following medals and ribbons:
    Purple Heart (for wounds) [​IMG]



    Good Conduct Medal [​IMG]


    WW2 Victory Medal [​IMG]


    Army of Occupation Medal [​IMG]

    European-African-Middle East Campaign Medal with two bronze stars (for Ardennes and Rhineland campaigns)
    [​IMG]

    Fro more information on these awards see here Ribbons - Order of Precedence

    He was also entitled to the Honorable Discharge Pin (sometimes called the "Ruptured Duck").
    [​IMG]

    He attained the rank of T-5
    [​IMG]

    Here is a link to the 1st Infantry data, including the Order of Battle, which shows the 1st Recon Troop, as well as other details of the Division.
    http://www.history.army.mil/documents/eto-ob/1ID-eto-ob.htm

    There is more to be said, but I'm on my way out. I'll try to get back later, or others may jump in as well.
     
  5. Spartanroller

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    If you want to see what a Mechanised Cavalry recon Troop was all about, have a look here;

    1st US Volunteer Cavalry - Mechanized Cavalry Troop (1944)

    and I think I've found his unit;

    from;

    Cavalry Histories

    "32d Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron, Mechanized

    Designated 27th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron 14 March 1942, absorbed 1st Cavalry Troop (Sep) 1 April 1942. Conducted reconnaissance in Canal Zone and Panama. Attached to 4th Cavalry in Texas in September 1943, reorganized on 1 November 1943, redesignated 32d Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron, Mechanized, on 1 December 1943. Arrived in UK 3 September 1944, disembarked across Omaha Beach 27 September. Committed to action attached to 83d Infantry Division 24 October in vicinity Basse-Kontz. Assigned 14th Cavalry Group 10 November, moved to Luxembourg 15 November, operated along Our River. Shifted to Belgium 15 December, hit by German Ardennes offensive. Reorganized and re-equipped in January 1945, returned to Belgium 28 January where attached to 82d Airborne Division. Drove to Rhine by 8 March, secured Remagen crossing beginning 12 March. Troop C provided communications across II Corps front beginning 27 March. Advanced to Lahn River attached to 9th Infantry Division. Transferred to Third Army 19 April, deployed to Fürth. Reconnoitered 42d Infantry Division advance to Danube, crossed river 29 April. Mopped up near Landshut in early May, ceased offensive operations 3 May."

    So assuming that info is correct;

    (almost certain, but 1st Recon Troop (Cavalry) and 1st Cavalry Troop (Recon) might possibly not be the same thing) (where they served fits)

    He was attached to a lot of different formations, so to get his whole story you will need to do a lot of reading! I'll start looking for stuff a little later

    Hope this helps so far :)
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    I'm going to close this thread, since the same questions are raised in your other post. Please only post your requests once, since otherwise the answers to your questions get scattered and hard to follow.

    Welcome to the forum, though.

    Lou, I merged the two threads since he had info that was easier read than the scans. - Slip
     
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    Ah - Lou and I have conflicting info we must confer, sorry Gail :)

    I think Lou has it right, ignore my last post :)
     
  8. geee2252

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    Thank you gentlemen for all your help. I am really appreciate it. My son in law is 2ng Lt. US Army stationed in Iraq out of Ft. Stewart GA and my daughter is expecting a baby any day, he will be coming home for r & r for the baby for 2 weeks then go back and with my father in failing health, I would like to give my son in law my fathers purple heart so having some information to go with it is going to be great. This journey is bitter sweet knowing Dad will be gone soon and a new baby will be born almost at the same time.
    So thank you very much .........
    Gail
     
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    Gail, I don't want to upset you for saying this, and please forgive me if I do, but I for one would like to see your father's memory honored here on the site when the hard time finally comes.

    So when the inevitable finally happens, please feel free to give an announcement of it to our roll of honor and memories thread:

    Roll of Honor & Memories - WWII Obituaries - World War II Forums

    We have the deepest respect for these great Americans here, and we wish you and your family all the best.

    God Bless!
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Do you already have all of his medals and ribbons? If not, you are entitled to a set. You just have to request them.
     
  11. Slipdigit

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    4. He was in the Cavalry, which was not horse mounted during the war. The fought in armored cars, half tracks and dismounted. They also had jeeps and trucks. Their main job was, as the name inplies, reconnasissance.
    5 AUS Army of the United States...he was a draftee.
    6. 1st RCN TROOP - A component unit of the US 1st Infantry Division, the Big Red One. He saw a lot of action. This thread Old Hickory can give you a basic idea of what he might have done. Old Hickory was in the 30th ID and is a good friend of mine. His story is being expanded to book form.
    32 battles and campaigns - He undoubtably was a replacement in the division and most likely did not join the unit until late 1944, possibly in December.
    34. Wounded. I might can do some research and give you a rough idea of where he was when this happened.
     
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    Okay, more info

    The 1st Reconnaissance Troop (Mech.) was, in all probability, part of the 1st ID as mentioned above.

    A Reconnaissance Troop (Mech.) was a "cavalry" unit and was part of the infantry division in WWII. However, as they were "cavalry" in an "infantry" division, they were not eligible for the Combat Infantry Badge, even though they often fought as, and with, the infantry.

    Other "1st" Cavalry units:

    1st Cavalry Brigade - Fought in the PTO
    1st Cavalry Regiment - Broken up mid 1940
    1st Reconnaissance Battalion - formed 1941 - redesignated 91 Cav Recon Sqd Jun 41
    1st Reconnaissance Battalion (Armored) - redesignated 81 Cav Recon Sqd May 41

    There were no other recon cav units of any size numbered "1".

    I am fairly certain that the unit referred to as "1st RCN TROOP", above, was actually the 1st Reconnaissance Troop (Mech.) of the 1st Infantry Division and the clerk probably used a shorthand name for the formation on your document.

    If the above is accurate, then your grandfather was wounded 5 days after the 1st ID assaulted the Rhine River and was pushing toward the Seig River.

    The 1st ID is a well known division with a good bit of information on the web about it. If you search and use the proper name of the division and troop that your grandfather was in, you may find good information.

    I wish youthe best of success in that endeavor.
     
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    Thank you Gentlemen for your help! This is very exciting for me.

    -Darren- It would be an honor, thank you Sir for your kind gesture.

    Everyone has been so helpful, as you can imagine, this is a very difficult time in my life, although my father was an American hero, he was always my personal hero.
    Gail
     
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    Lou,
    Sir, where would I file to get his medals and ribbons? I do have his purple heart but haven't been able to find any of the other ones.
    Gail
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Gail,
    Follow the instructions from this link at eVetRecs. You can do the process either on line or by mail. (I recommend online.)
    Replacement Medals, Awards, and Decorations

    (Also, just call me Lou. Sir makes me feel even older than I already am.)
     
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    And that's pretty dang old.:D
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Gee, thanks for jumping to my defense, Jeff. :rolleyes:
     
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    Gentlemen,
    Yesterday there was a strange twist of fate and not for the best. My ex husbands wife had taken a horrible fall down a flight of stairs causing her many severe, life threatening injuries, including brain hemorraging and all her ribs, pervis and 3 vertibra in her neck and back broken. She had brain surgery yesterday morning to releave the swelling. As not the usual case, she and I got along great since she was married to my ex for 30 years now, and my children always called her mom.
    Today I called my father in hospice, I am 3000 miles away from where he lives and could not get out there due to my own disability and finances...anyway, my dad has been non responsive for 4 days now and not eating at all. My last phone call to him was about 2 hours ago. I told him that it was his time to go home. That all my uncles were waiting for him to go on a huge fishing trip(my dad loved fishing). And I told him that if God had an empty chair in heaven that had to be filled, it was his time to go not Melinda's. That when he gets there, to look down on her, Frank in Iraq, the new baby coming, the rest of the grand children and great grand children and me.
    My father passed at 11:44 pm eastern time, 10/15/10.
    I am the proud daughter of Salvatore Lombardo. He will live in the middle of my heart and his spirit shall shine in the great grandbabies Justin, Ashley, Abigail, Anabelle(due 10/29) and the new unborn one due May 1, 2011.......
    I love you Daddy........
     
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    My condolences go out to you and your loved ones.
     
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    Sorry to hear that Gail - i hope we can do his story proud here
     

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