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How many Americans on the Forum support war with Iraq?

Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by Doc Raider, Feb 13, 2003.

  1. Doc Raider

    Doc Raider Member

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    I saw the title of this thread and figured I'd do this. Might be interesting to see how the forum's own little microcosm of americans feels.
     
  2. C.Evans

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    I havent voted yet because I would like to see someone else step up to the batters plate first. :cool:
     
  3. TA152

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    I think they should get rid of Saddam, but they should use the CIA or other covert agency to take him out and not American servicemen. Saddam is not worth one dead American, let alone the many that will die if they do go to war.

    If they offered a reward for Saddam dead equal to the fantastic amount of money it will cost to go to war, then thousands of people would be after his head.
     
  4. Erich

    Erich Alte Hase

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    Ta :

    It wouldn't suprise me a bit if there are certain US or European elements as sniper teams already based in Bagdhad for some weeks and going through searches......

    E
     
  5. PzJgr

    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    The US lost its chance in getting rid of Hussein. All we are doing now is making him look like the victim and if anything happens to him, he will become a martyr for the terrorists. Also, The US needs to stop its path of imperialism by forcing its beliefs onto other countries. We are taking the path of the British and Romans. We will end up just like them, a shadow of their former selves.
     
  6. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Miserable Cretin

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    There will be no war.
    This is all a big sham.
    The "Iraq Emergency" has long since passed, which means that George Bush cannot declare war by himself. He's going to need the approval of Congress, and he'll never get it.
    He can't get the approval of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, for God's sake.
     
  7. Stefan

    Stefan Cavalry Rupert

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    Erm, didnt the 'patriot act' give the president permission to attack any nation he wishes without going to congress? I hear that there was an act passed to that effect though I dont know the details, heared the only congreswoman to vote against it talking about it. Does anyone have any idea what I am on about?
     
  8. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Miserable Cretin

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    Stefan:
    The American Constitution specifically says that the power to declare war resides with Congress, except in times of emergency. The "time of emergency" exists for only so long, however (60 or 90 days, I don't remember) and that window has long sindce passed.
     
  9. AndyW

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    Dilemma:

    I'd like to see the results of this poll, but without voting I can't, and I'm not allowed to vote on this poll, because I'm not an American. :confused:

    I'm feeling a bit like Franz K. here ;)

    Cheers,
     
  10. Doc Raider

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    Andy, can't you just hit the results button?

    PzJgr-
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    "The US needs to stop its path of imperialism by forcing its beliefs onto other countries. We are taking the path of the British and Romans. We will end up just like them, a shadow of their former selves."

    I have never agreed with anything more in my entire life!
     
  11. PzJgr

    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    Glad I'm not alone Doc. [​IMG]
     
  12. CrazyD

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    "The US needs to stop its path of imperialism by forcing its beliefs onto other countries. We are taking the path of the British and Romans. We will end up just like them, a shadow of their former selves."

    100% agreed. Don't think this could be stated in a more clear manner.

    Directly on the topic- I would support a war against Iraq... IF (BIG if) the Bush administration could actually make a case demonstrating a clear and present danger that Iraq poses to the US. AND demonstrating that war was the ONLY real option left.
    (And somehow also addressing Al-Qaeda and domestic issues)

    So far, I haven't even seen anything close to this.

    [ 14. February 2003, 08:52 AM: Message edited by: CrazyD ]
     
  13. PzJgr

    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    DITTO!!! Where is the indisputable proof? I was an advocate of 'dubbya' but he is quickly losing my vote.
     
  14. AndyW

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    Did so. Pop-up window says:

    "FYI
    You must vote in this poll before viewing the results....."

    Cheers,
     
  15. Doc Raider

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    Andy W.

    So far, it is 3 for an attack, 7 against, and 1 "for" under certain conditions.
     
  16. CrazyD

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    PzJgr, we seem to be on EXACTLY the same page here!
    Again, couldn't have put it better myself. Immediately following 9/11, I actually became more of a "Bush Fan" than I would have imagined- I didn't like him at all when he was first elected. But I do think he handled 9/11 and the immediate aftermath rather well. But now... sheesh.

    This makes me think of an interesting one...
    Osama Bin Laden was implicated within hours of the 9/11 attacks. And again, merely hours later, it was determined that OBL was in Afghanistan, being harbored by the Taliban. We all remember the Taliban refusing to give Bin Laden up... And yet in spite of the fact that we KNEW OBL was in Afghanistan, we KNEW the Taliban WERE harboring him...

    Bush waited MORE THAN A MONTH to actually attack the Taliban. He gave them chance after chance to give OBL up... it was only after it became clear that they would not that Bush went after them.

    So why is it that the Taliban- who were harboring someone who ACTUALLY ATTACKED AMERICA- were given chance after chance to submit- but apparently it dosen't matter in the least what Saddam does? Seems that Bush was "lenient" with the Taliban, but psycho on Iraq.

    Priorities?!?!?!?!
     
  17. De Vlaamse Leeuw

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    And how are the results now???
    I can't see them, because I'm not an American.

    Cheers
     
  18. TA152

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    Erwin, I talked to George W. this afternoon and we are going to make Flandres the 51st State in the United States, so go ahead and vote for the war of your choice :rolleyes:
     
  19. Carl G. E. von Mannerheim

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    Im ashamed to call some of you my fellow americans.

    Have you forgotten our national duty?

    CvM
     
  20. Stefan

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    National duty to do what? Attack other nations? Protect other nations? How comes the US national duty has changed so much in the last 100 years, before 1942 it was to avoid conflict or involvement with the rest of the world if possible. Frankly I would feel honoured to call most of the chaps on here fellow countrymen simply because of the maturity with which this issue is being discussed and the respect people are showing one another. Surley if anything all of us have a duty to uphold the principles of democracy that everyone is so keen on fighting for and against through debate like this.
     

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