My small collection :)

Here is a list of RZM codes and makers for belt buckles:

M4/1 Ferdinand Hoffstätter, Bonn
M4/2 M. Winter, München
M4/3 Kallenbach, Meyer & Franke, Luckenwalde
M4/4 Gustav Emil Ficker, Beierfeld
M4/5 Leistner & Co., Lüdenscheid
M4/6 C. & W. Meindel-Scholer, Klingenthal
M4/7 Hermann Sprenger, Iserlohn
M4/9 Albert Winges, Trusen
M4/10 Bernhard Haarmann, Lüdenscheid
M4/12 Mathias Kutsch, Attendorn
M4/13 Paul Schuhmacher, Lüdenscheid
M4/14 Otto Fechler, Bernsbach
M4/15 Paul Meybauer, Berlin
M4/16 Robert Tummler, Dobeln
M4/17 Ernst Meissner, Hohenlimburg
M4/18 Julius Bauer & Söhne, Zella-Mehlis
M4/19 Ernst Schneider, Lüdenscheid
M4/21 Hans Schonfelder, Mittweida
M4/22 Christian Theodor Dicke
M4/23 Franke & Co., Lüdenscheid
M4/24 Friedrich Linden, Lüdenscheid
M4/25 Noelle & Huck, Lüdenscheid
M4/26 Offenberg-Engels, Iserlohn
M4/27 Overhoft & Co., Lüdenscheid
M4/28 Paulmann & Crone, Lüdenscheid
M4/29 K. E Brahm, Fürth
M4/30 Berg & Nolte, Lüdenscheid
M4/31 Max Haufe, Grossrohrsdorf
M4/32 Gebrüder Hahne, Lüdenscheid
M4/33 J. D. von Hagen G.m.b.H., Iserlohn
M4/34 Nordwall & Welschehold, Menden
M4/35 Moeller & Schröder, Offenbach
M4/36 Knopffabrik von Hofe & Co., Lüdenscheid
M4/37 Stefan Merkl, Nürnberg
M4/38 Richard Sieper & Söhne, Lüdenscheid
M4/39 E W. Assmann & Söhne, Lüdenscheid
M4/40 Giesse & Schmidt, Ruhla
M4/41 Schmal & Schulz, Wuppertal-Barmen
M4/42 Hermann Aurich, Dresden
M4/43 R. A. Erbe, Schmalkalden
M4/44 Paul Cramer & Co., Lüdenscheid
M4/45 Cramer & Dombach, Lüdenscheid
M4/46 Wilhelm Schroder & Co., Lüdenscheid
M4/47 Ebberg & Co., Lüdenscheid
M4/49 Steinhauer & Luck, Lüdenscheid
M4/50 Willi Thuy, Lüdenscheid
M4/51 Homer & Dittermann, Wuppertal-Bannen
M4/52 Linden & Funke G.m.b.H., Iserlohn
M4/53 Zieh-Press-und Stanzwerk G.m.b.H., Zwintschona
M4/54 Wilhelm Annetsberger, München
M4/55 Julius Kremp, Lüdenscheid
M4/56 Friedrich Keller, Oberstein
M4/57 Julius Maurer, Oberstein
M4/58 Wilhelm Deus, Solingen
M4/59 Adolf Baumeister, Lüdenscheid
M4/60 Gustav Brehmer, Markneukirchen
M4/61 Julius Dinnebier, Lüdenscheid
M4/62 Arld Heinrich, Nürnberg
M4/63 Werner Redo, Saarlautern
M4/64 Otto Geiger, Lüdenscheid
M4/65 Georg Bonitz, Schwarzenberg
M4/66 Stimming & Venzlaff, Altenburg
M4/67 Emil Juttner, Lüdenscheid
M4/68 Norddeutsches Nickel-und Silberwaren G.m.b.H., Hamburg
M4/69 Meyer & Wilhelm, Stuttgart
M4/70 Kugel & Fink, Lüdenscheid
M4/71 Lehmann & Wundenberg, Hannover
M4/72 Wilhelm Deumer, Lüdenscheid
M4/73 Lohmann & Welschehold, Meinerzhagen
M4/74 Wilhelm Geiger G.m.b.H.; Lüdenscheid
M4/75 Walter Demmer, Lüdenscheid
M4/76 Petz & Koch, Unterreichenbach
M4/77 Gebrüder Gloerfeld, Lüdenscheid
M4/78 E K. Vogelsang & Co., Lüdenscheid
M4/79 Hillenbrand & Bröer, Lüdenscheid
M4/80 Lind & Meyrer, Oberstein
M4/81 Inhaber Frau Johanna Kaukal, Wien
M4/84 Grossmann & Co., Wien
M4/85 Friedrich Bibus & Sohn, Mahrisch-Trubau
M4/86 Sohni, Heubach & Co., Oberstein
M4/87 Matthias Salcher & Söhne, Wagstadt
M4/88 August Hieke, Tyssa bei Bodenbach
M4/90 Adolf Grohmann & Sohn, Wurbenthal
M4/92 Heinrich Ulbrichts Witwe, Wien
M4/93 Lenkwerk Brüder Schneider, Wien
M4/94 Raimond Moser, Wien
M4/95 Franz Weinrank, Wien
M4/96 Eans Pacher, Wien
M4/97 Friedrich Orth, Wien
M4/98 Franz Petzl, Wien
M4/99 Franke & Sohn, Heidenreichenstein
M4/100 Rudolf Menschiga, Wien
M4/101 Dominik Schönbaumsfelds & Sohn, Wien
M4/102 Wilhelm Prym, Wien
M4/103 Rudolf Schanes, Wien
M4/104 Philipp Turka, Wien
M4/105 Argentorwerk Rust Hetzel, Wien
M4/106 Maria Schenkl, Wien
M4/107 Frank & Reit Stuttgart
M4/108 Adalbert Kanngieser, Wien
M4/109 Rudolf & Karl Kraus, Solingen
M4/110 Josef Felix & Söhne, Gablonz
M4/114 Otto Honsel, Werdohl
M4/115 Klein & Quenzer, Idar-Oberstein
M4/116 CamiIl Bergmann & Co., Gablonz
M4/117 W. Aurich, Leipe
M4/119 Eugen Schmiedhäusler, Pforzheim
M4/120 Karl Hensler, Pforzheim
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Wow thats a lot. I personally think its a fake. I would be suprised if it wasn't.

 

Well that sucks that's its fake. Nice to know though for future reference. Thanks everyone. I'll try and get in contact with the seller

 

No problem, I am sorry to have to be the bearer of the bad news...it's not popular to be the 'guy' that says something is fake...but I'd rather have someone be straight with me instead of the 'looks nice' comments that too many people like to give.

Peter Nash has put out a fairly good reference book on TR era belt buckles. If you want to collect TR era buckles and want to save yourself an expensive education I'd look at buying this book. If you just want an example use the various forums, you'll end up with a good one...and $500 less in your bank account!

 

Yeah very true. It would be good if you bought it at a "replica" price.

 

Jewish Holocaust Memory, WW2 armband, Yellow Gavid star, JUIF, JOOD, JUDE, J

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Hello Chris

Do you have an obverse close up pic of the buckle?

Best Regards, fischer

 

Post #23 Fischer...you shouldn't need anything more than that...

 

The photos of the 'Star of David' in wear are from various ghetto's. The triangle system was used in all lagers; not just concentration/death camps. The 'Star of David' armbands are just pure fantasy.

Now I am not sure but maybe the Kapo's used the 'Star of David' somewhere in their uniforms.

 

The problem is Post 23 does not show a close up of the Obverse, only the Reverse.

So, if I would like to see a close up of the front of the buckle...I do need something more wouldn't you say?

How about letting Chris, the owner of the buckle respond this time...

Best Regards, fischer

 

No problem ...buddy..

 

Fischer, I'm in the military and all my stuff is back home. I went home for Christmas and took those pictures above. Sorry

 

Hello Chris

I do agree with the others and looking at the reverse, my opinion is this buckle is a reproduction. Having not seen this set up before I was curious to see what the front looked like.

Sorry you are out the money and RRCollector is correct, investing in the right study material (books) can save you a lot of cash.

Here is one of my SS buckles, an early Overhoff example.

Best Regards, fischer

 

Hey Everyone! Its been a while since I've been on. Since then my collection as grown a little.
Update 1/16/11









and here is that close up of the suspected fake belt buckle

 

Oh! my God!!!!!!!! this is awesome i want one of that gun, then i will be able to shoot the narcos xD

 

I confirm Fisher's opinion about the buckle. Just another detail for a future buy : real buckles were worn and it's pins don't look as if the were cut off yesterday and don't have sharp edges. Edges shouldn't have a polished aspect either

 

Nice P-38, ive got an AC-43-used to have a BYF-November 41-but my home was broken into Jan 6 2000, and it was stolen. Luckily, sitting next to it-was General Francis P. Hardaways Remington made Colt .45-untouched. The frigging thif was a stupid fool and should have taken that pistol instead--lucky for me it didnt take both. The DAMNED Cops STILL aint found my Walther.

 

Thanks Evans. I guess he saw a different looking pistol and thought it was worth more

 

nice additions to your collection Chris

 

Thanks Andy.
From my research the holster is pretty rare. Its a '44 hardshell made by NDK. Supposedly, companies switched from hard to soft shells in 1944. Can anyone confirm this?