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  1. JJWilson

    JJWilson Well-Known Member

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    Hello everyone, as many of you know, I would like to take up writing my own WW2 books upon my return from my mission as a hobby. There is an idea that I have been researching quite a bit to see if it is legitimate story building material.

    During WW2, Switzerland was a neutral country, and it defended it neutrality fiercely. Switzerland shot down many German, British, and American aircraft that flew into the neutral nations airspace, leaving many crews to be interned in the country till wars end. So here is a very slimmed down summary of my story, and I'm hoping you all can tell me whether this is, a good idea for one, and two, a realistic enough idea.

    An RAF Pilot conducting recon near Mulhouse France in September of 1939 becomes disoriented in the night, and has to land in Switzerland. He is the first of the war to be interned in an old ski resort in the Swiss Alps, he names the internement facility Hotel Switzerland. From then to the end of the war, dozens more are interned, including those on opposing sides of the war. Among the interned are French, Italian, British, Australian, Canadian, American, German and Russian internees. Captors, captives, and enemies, become friends in an unlikely place and situation.

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    Captured American B-17 interned in Switzerland
     
  2. ColHessler

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    Does anyone try to escape? Remember that these men would try to get back to friendly territory. It's a prisoner's duty to try to escape.

    Also, there were pro-Nazi Swiss. Is the commandant one of them?
     
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    I will have some of the characters escape, some multiple times, and I was planning on having the commandant be bias towards the Germans initially, but not Pro-Nazi, some of the guards will be though.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Sounds interesting, but it needs fleshing out obviously. Backstory of the main characters is one that comes immediately to mind. Consistency of story is another. Outline before you write, each segment especially. Refine your thinking. Dialog is important. Make sure it sounds as though the characters are really speaking. You have your work cut out for you. Good luck.
     
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  6. Takao

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    Not plausible...

    1. The Spitfires didn't operate near Switzerland that early in the war. Any Spit pilot flying that far out of his way would be intentionally looking to defect, as he would have passed well-known land marks on the way.

    2. The first British pilots interned in Switzerland didn't happen until 1942.
    Air War Web Portal: Interned Aircraft in Switzerland

    3. No British fighters were interned in Switzerland, and only 2 USfighters were interned - one in 44, and another in 45.
    See above link.

    You could still tell essentially the same story, just set it later in the war.
     
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    German and Russian internees would be an intriguing question; would these individuals overcome the bitterness between their nations during the war? Or would there be constant tension that perhaps the other internees would try to deal with?

    Of course it's unlikely that Russians would end up in Switzerland, but a work of fiction can take some liberties. As Rich and Takao mentioned, you'd be doing a bit of that anyway.

    There was often a degree of camaraderie between British, German, American, etc. captors and prisoners, so it's not implausible that something like that could develop if they were all in the same boat. Good luck!
     
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    Every room is wired for sound. The staff includes one agent from each country and one of those is a double, or perhaps triple agent. At one point the internees hear of a plan to raid the facility and evacuate certain personnel. BUT the country changes with each telling. Do the internees wait for the raid ro continue with their own efforts to return to duty?

    Oh, and one of the internees is from a very rich family, so he gets "CARE packages" from them that includes cases of scotch.
     
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    Oh, and one of the internees claims to be Joseph Patrick Kennedy Jr.
     
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    Some Soviets were interned in Switzerland, also there were a good many Poles that had been interned in Switzerland.
     
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    I was planning on having the recon aircraft the RAF pilot was flying be a Westland Lysander, and the internees would be separated by nation, at least initially. I'm thinking that I might change the story to be in the perspective of one the Swiss guards.
     
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    Perhaps from the perspective of various "keepers"? Head Swiss, housekeeper, guard, a young lady from the nearby village that brings chocolates and other goodies for sale to the internees?
     
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    One of my uncles friends was interned in Switzerland. I remember him mentioning the fact that he was briefly captured (in Germany) before crossing the border in to Switzerland made a significant difference in the conditions of internment. The rules were much looser than they were for those that made it there without being captured. I suspect those that landed or crashed in Switzerland fell under the latter rules as well.
     
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    In November 1939 a Spitfire spy plane from No. 2 CU took pictures of Germany from high altitude. No. 212 Squadron was formed in France for photo work. Strategic photo recon flights started at Heston airfield and a year later moved to RAF Benson, reorganized as No. 1 PRU. Except when assigned to Tac/R the photo Spitfires were usually unarmed, with the guns sometimes replaced by extra fuel cells.

    The facts would change your timeline slightly, but this is not really significant because you propose a fictional account.
     
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    Still throwing out ideas, just for fun. A "daring rescue" of the "most important person" at the facility might be needed because Otto Skorzeny's mob are planning to hijack him for interrogation. A brief but fierce battle erupts when the Germans arrive as the Allied team is trying to get away. It become a three-way fight when the Swiss get perturbed by all this.
     
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    OP alludes to a very important question: Where is the conflict that would be needed for drama?
     
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    Sex, politics, conflict. The big three.
     
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    The Heston flight was originally controlled by MI6 and it's plausible that a woman could be the pilot. During the war many women were qualified on Spitfires as delivery pilots and some were very skilled at maneuvering them in aerobatic drills.
     
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    How about a bomber pilot? When did RAF Bomber Command start bombing Northern Italy? Your hero could be on his way back from bombing Turin?
     
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    Yes it was common to have an agent in these camps pretending to be an inmate...Finding who it is might be part of the story...Could one of the main characters be the snitch? What would happen to him if found out?
    Aircraft can become VERY disorientated especially in bad weather...Once fuel runs low the pilot must land - WHERE EVER he finds himself...German aircraft have landed in Britain without knowing until they get out of the aircraft!
     

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