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Russian T34-85

Discussion in 'Eastern Europe' started by denny, Feb 25, 2015.

  1. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

    Jul 31, 2002
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    The Tiger problem was tried to solve by SU-152

    [SIZE=small]The SU-152 was a dual purpose gun, mounting a 152mm L/32 howitzer on a KV-I chassis.
    Its tank killing role was outstanding, and it would later be known as Zvierboy (Animal Killer) as it could knock out Tigers, Panthers, but also the giant Elefants. Prototypes of the KW-14 (later SU-152) on modified KW-1s chassis were completed in a record 25 days, and on February 7th of 1943 barely a month after the Russians captured their first PzKpfw. VI Tiger I [/SIZE](!!!!), and the first twelwe of the SU-152s were rushed to Kursk in July 1943, and an additional nine would arrive as reinforcements. SU-152's (as Jagdtigers) carried an explosive charge to destroy the cannon and the engine in case of capture danger.

    Talking about quick reaction to the Tiger problem.25 days and into production! Must be a world record! Even with the chassis ready by KV-1.Wonder if Hitler had sent the Tigers to combat at Kursk and not earlier like this so that the Russians had no time to prepare for it??


    At the end of 1943, a new assault gun, the ISU-152 , based on IS-2 heavy tank was produced. It was armed with a very powerful 152mm howitzer. The shell of this gun could penetrate any part of the Tiger's armor and even cut the turret from the hull. This assault gun was nicknamed "Animal Hunter". The weight of the AP shell was 48kg, while HE shell was 41kg.

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  2. MxArgus

    MxArgus New Member

    Jan 24, 2015
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    Greetings to all:
    Yes, it's a great image, a photograph taken in Berlin in the final days of the campaign, white markings as aerial identification on the sides and although certainly can not be seen on the roof of the tower are typical of this period. As added protection on the sides of the hull and in some cases the tower, there is certainly numerous images of Soviet tanks with metal bedsteads soldiers on their side to detonate the shaped charge anti-tank weapons Panzerfaust type before it will impact on the helmet.
    It may seem strange but now the us Army Stryker vehicles and many other recent vehicles, we can even see them now in the conflict in Ukraine, are equipped with devices with the same objetvio. Even during his stay in Iraq many Americans light vehicle wore armor crafted to meet the RPG shaped charge.

    Is not a T-34/85, but y por one of my last works, a T-34/76 Model 1941 welded torret production in KHPZ, 101st Tank Division, Yartsevo sector, July August 1941.

    An interesting web.


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  3. denny

    denny Member

    Jan 16, 2013
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    USA, CA, Solano County
    How "successful" was the 34-85 at killing a Panther or Tiger.?
    I assume, there must have been some distance where the 34-85 could take on the front end of these two tanks.?
  4. edhunter76

    edhunter76 Member

    Sep 2, 2009
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    T34-85's 85mm gun was actually quite good and could easily penetrate Panther and other German mediums, tank destroyers and light tanks. It's 85mm gun velocity and range was much better compared to 76mm gun in previous T34. It could score kills from 1000 - 1200 meters and better optical equipment would have probably make that even better.

    But, T34 was still quite easy prey for German tanks as they had better velocity and range in their guns that made it possible to engage much longer distances than T34 could. T34 was reliable and the number of them in the battlefield much higher compared to Germans, but overall I would say that in 1vs1 battle German tanks would have knocked T34 out probably (if comparing only technical abilities).
  5. Triple C

    Triple C Ace

    Oct 12, 2008
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    With tungsten carbide ammunition. Regular AP rounds did not have encouraging performance at ranges over 500 meters. However, the Soviets were a major miner of tungsten and the allotment of tungsten carbide ammo was up to six rounds per tank, a pretty significant edge compared to zero per panzer in the Wehrmacht and about two rounds per tank in the US Army.

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