Discussion in 'Eastern Europe October 1939 to February 1943' started by Kai-Petri, Dec 16, 2002.
Excellent pictures as always, Kai!
The first photos are from North Karelia, and the cemetary is for German soldiers. Not absolutely sure about the rest of the photos as there is no text. But I believe they are from North Karelia as well.
It looks like an attack/or attacks on Soviet rail lines judging from the red star on one of the engines. The fighting in Finland was pretty static once the old Finnish border was secured so I am guessing that these photos were taken of some behind the lines raiders. Was this a branch line that the raiders successfully cut, or was this the Leningrad/Murmansk mainline? If it is indeed the Mainline this would narrow the date to 1941 when Finnish and German troops were threatening the Soviet main supply route; http://books.google.com/books?id=C68xN5lTN6EC&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=railway+raids+karelia+WWII&source=bl&ots=1_4f1Ze_QN&sig=DR85LvCAJqa-aLYomIzEa9L1PLI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=37NSUsmzBIPAyAGDn4HABQ&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=railway%20raids%20karelia%20WWII&f=false I believe I recall reading that the Finns backed away from the rail line when the Western Allies made some diplomatic threats-a move which guaranteed WWI style static warfare on the Karelian Front.
Some German winter fashion clothing winter 1941 probably except for the first photo,not sure.
The first photo is from the Kiev "Deutsches Stadion"...
I guess according to the clothing winter 42-43 or later...
Great photos as always Kai. Keep it up.
In 1992 after the USSR had coĺlapsed Russia confirmed that the 'Mainila shots' which started the Winter War as the Finns were claimed starting it were actually fired By the USSR artillery.
A German Kriegsmarine unit that mined the Gulf of Finland and also acted as netzlager ( long nets in the course of Gulf of Finland ) to prevent the Soviet subs and ships escaping from out of Kronstadt to sink Swedish and other convoys on their way to Germany and Finland.
and the rest..
In one of the photos some gentlemen appear to be diving in for a swim. What would water temperatures be during the Summer in that region?
If we have a warm summer in the southern part it could be some 17-23 C degrees the top level of the sea water.
You folks is made of pretty sturdy stock. In Mississippi that would be postively cool.
I remember one hiking trip we had up in the CrusadesCascades. It was over 80 degrees (air temperature) so we went for a swim in water that still had snow floating in it. The ocean water off the coast of Washington is typically around 55 F or 13 C and you see plenty of people in it during the summer. 23 C is a bit over 73 F that qualifies as cool rather than cold in my book. The Finn's are known to jump into ice water after stepping out of sauna's I believe. That's a lot more of a temperature shock. Not sure how long they stay in it though. Kai can probably give us a lot more details.
In ol' Miss, we ain't known for our cold tolerance.
When I was going to school at Michigan state there was a guy there that put his long pants in the bottom of his drawers when he got there because the weather was still warm. Never got them out until he got a job at a pizza place. If the weather was really bad (snow storm) he'd put galoshes on over his sandals and a rain slicker over his t-shirt and shorts. Admittedly his nickname indicated both his place of origin and the assessment of many on campus. They referred to him as "the Mad Hawaiian". Certainly no a "Sam McGee". Cold tolerance is an interesting phenomena a lot seems to be as much psychological as physiological.
Quite true. I'm very much in the "sissy" camp when it comes to cold water.
Um, Cascades I believe you mean...