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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Ben Dover, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. Brian Smith

    Brian Smith Active Member

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    If Scotland wants to leave the UK, then great just put up, shut up and go. However given how the rest of the UK currently supports you financially you will then have to raise all your own revenues so if you think austerity has been bad over past years you have not seen anything yet.

    As for Scotland joining the EU I am sure they will soon be advertising for new members but unless they drop the membership tests you have no chance.
     
  2. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Turmoil ahead for all western countries in the decade to come...we are beginning a new transition...Our problems have only just begun. Some will think its the end...but ironically, it is a beginning...Something like the industrial revolution in reverse. Large industry wont have any humans in it...a cottage industry will begin again.
    The EU will most likely morph into another new organisation more suitable to the most powerful nations...Life, but not as we know it Captain.
     
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    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    We're not all Braveheart victims, Brian.
     
  4. Mutley

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    If you managed to get through the movie Braveheart, then you could be considered a victim.
     
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    https://www.minnpost.com/macro-micro-minnesota/2012/02/history-lessons-understanding-decline-manufacturing
     
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    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    Can't argue with that one.
     
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    Agree, although Longshanks and the Queen were terrific characters. I can watch any scene with either of them in it over and over again.
     
  8. Brian Smith

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    No but you are all victims of NS, where do we find these waste of time and space politicians who do not seem to either live in or understand the real world.
     
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    No more than any other fantasy movie ... for some reason I mentally making comparisons to "300" now ....
     
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    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    I've always thought these movies were made for kids, not adults. I had to watch every such movie in cinema while my daughter was a child - i had no choice, my wife refused categorically. That was a well intentioned sacrifice of my time and sense for aesthetics. Now, my daughter doesn't intend to expose her little son to such a nonsense. Clever decision.
     
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    I knew they would drag this indefinitely, cherry-picking just benefits of membership while telling us: "but we are leaving, don't tell us what we should do!".
     
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    Unfortunately Tamino the issue in N. Ireland isn't EU related, but it will have its impact.

    The issue here is to do with electricity and the loss of £400 million to the public purse because of the botched subsidies.

    It will be interesting to see the manifesto's presented by the hopeful politians and how they will address Brexit.
     
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    ... as yet another excuse to drag and drag and drag...
     
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    Should not have any impact it is the UK Government that will trigger Article 50, nothing to do with some washed up terrorist.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but there was initially a promise that the trigger will be pulled before the end of 2016. Now it is promised to happen by end of March. Let's see.
     
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    OK so the promise is really to trigger it three months from now. Now being the operative word and a variable condition on when the question is asked.
     
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    Cameron said he'd trigger the process the day after the referendum if required.
    He then soiled himself (or if being kinder; became overcome with ennui) and resigned.
    A new Prime Minister was found.
    She confirmed, after some unofficial musings, in her first speech as PM to conference (October) that the process would begin before the end of March 2017.
    She, and the cabinet, has officially said nothing contrary to that since.

    You can read the simplified TEU here (It is very dull, but worth reading for a variety of reasons. The full and more specific treaties on membership are more fun in some ways, but also much duller.) :
    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A12012M%2FTXT

    The triggering of the Leave process rests entirely with the state concerned. All else is hyperbole.
     
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    SEAGOON; Finally I walked the streets of Bexhill at night disguised as a human man - then suddenly!!

    ORCHESTRA; FLARING CHORD.

    SEAGOON: Nothing happened. But it happened suddenly. Disappointed, I lit my pipe.

    From The Dreaded Batter Pudding Hurler of Bexhill-on-Sea
     
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