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Discussion in 'WWII Films & TV' started by LRusso216, Jan 11, 2015.

  1. Bundesluftwaffe

    Bundesluftwaffe New Member

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    Well the 6.6 is ok, maybe a bit lower. Apart from the distortion of history I remember it was decent movie. But there is another one often forgotten:

    The last U-boat (Das letzte U-boot). Not about Enigma but this boat should bring Uranium (or any material to build a A-bomb to Japan) as well plans for Jets etc.
    I don´t know how historic this last u-boat was but I liked the movie :) It is on youtube (in German, but the allied guys speak English in it)

    Btw: Seems both Japan and Ger were a bit careless of their coding secrets.
     
  2. Takao

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    That U-boat would be U-234, a large Type XB mine-laying submarine. I have not seen the movie, so I do not know how well it follows U-234's story.
     
  3. Bundesluftwaffe

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    Here ya go:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvszr00dtv0


    Btw: Nice 80ties psychedelic synth sound in it :p Also note "modern" (80ties or 70ties) frigate or corvette in harbour :eek:
    This is more low budget, don´t expect Das Boot production - however I still like this one.
     
  4. Takao

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    Looks like a Soviet Foxtrot as a stand-in for U-234.
     
  5. Bundesluftwaffe

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    I was just thinking about that, you mean a Foxtrot ? Also resembles a bit a Dutch sub on dosplay I visited in Den Helder (Zwardvis or dolphin class?). But maybe it is an ex-east german one.
     
  6. Takao

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    The HNLMS Tonjin(Potvis class) is at Den Helder.

    To the untrained eye, one might say they look similar(all submarines look similar in one respect or another), but they two submarines are not very similar at all.

    Foxtrot Class
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    HNLMS Tonjin
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  7. Takao

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    Yep, the submarine in "Das letzte U-boot" was a Foxtrot...The Polish Dzik, she was decommissioned and scrapped in 2005.

    All that remains of her today is her conning tower at the Polish Navy Museum in Gdynia.
    [​IMG]
     
  8. Bundesluftwaffe

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    Well at least the Dutch sub is way bigger than the small German one in Wilhelmshaven :p But I know they are dwarfed by Oscar & Typhoon classes (played Harpoon and learned a lot).

    BTW: Interestingly the pic of the Dutch one above must have been shot at roughly same time frame I was there, cause the crane in the background was also there :)
     
  9. Takao

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    By a whole whopping 6 feet...The Type XXI is slightly wider and somewhat heavier(100 or 200 tons surfaced/submerged).


    Typhoon...Ahhh! The Hunt for Red October, I loved that movie.
     
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    "One of the things that made it so good was using two seperate production companies who worked independently, a Japanese one for the Japanese portions and an American one for the American portions."
    Was aboot 12 maybe 14 when saw the movie. Seemed disjointed because of the (now know-thanks) 2 different film teams. Looked like 2 different movies pasted together, to those 12 year old eyes.
    Will revisit. Should make a lot more sense now, thanks to WW2F.
     
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    Very interesting reading about the 2 production companies!

    I watch this movie for the first time in about 20 years the other night . . That great thing about watching these movies as an adult is that I actually appreciate and learn from the story. . . As a kid I just wanted to see things getting blown up. Anyway, great movie. . Loved seeing the formation of 5 real B-17's . . The crash landing was real too. . When filming the landing gear failed. . so they put smoke across the runaway and filmed a real emergency landing . . wow! The same B-17 was repaired but was destroyed in a fatal crash in 1975.

    I found it really interesting watching the point of view from the japanese. . . some were not very happy about entering the war against the U.S. . I found those scenes very interesting. Great movie.
     
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    wow,,... I didn't know that...I didn't get that disjointed affect....
     
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    Yeah I didn't get the disjointed affect either... However now I am aware, the next time I watch it I bet it'll bug me I'm sure haha :)
     
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    TCM just had "Tora! Tora! Tora!" on again. I don't care what people say, I like the detail in this movie and that there are fewer liberties taken here than with about any other historic event Hollywood get it's hands on.
     
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    The Yamamoto quote is a fake, inserted by the producer to give the US audience a bit of an upbeat ending.

    He would have done better to remind the audience of the events just six months later.
     
  18. Phantom of the Ruhr

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    When I visited Pearl last month, I overheard a couple of folks mentioning the "sleeping giant" quote while leaving the Arizona memorial. They seemed surprised when I told them the truth.

    Tora! Tora! Tora! is still a good film as far as I'm concerned. Its has its share of flaws and omissions like any historical movie, but the effort's certainly there. Its leagues better than what Bay gave us in 2001.
     
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    I twitched when I saw the Perry's tied up at the docks. But I guess they couldn't be all that realistic.

    Favorite trivia: The Nevada got underway early and they had to scramble to get footage of her famous run. We see about 1/3 of the footage they had planned to take.
     
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    Another Yamamoto quote which I think is accurate: "If war comes, I will run wild for six months, or a year..."
     

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