What if Hitler had not killed himself?

Would they have put him ( The Russians ) in a cage in a zoo for people to look at ( as Hitler said )? Or sent him to Siberia to camp? Or shot him straight away and destroyed the body? Or charged at Nuremberg like the other top nazis and hanged him?
What would they have done with the body in order not to create a memorial for the neo-nazis?

 

Any reason why not this one? Pretty obvious, I think. They would have burned his body then and sunk anywhere in the sea...

 

Quite so; can't afford to manufacture martyrs, y'know.

Yours,
Paul

 

He may just have been put on trial at Nuremburg. Think of the level of political triumph that would have been; enormous to say the least.

"Red Army bags the Fuehrer" in bold letters scross every major newspaper in the world.

Then he would have been executed in a media frenzy.

 

I think putting Hitler to court with other nazi bosses would not have been that easy. It´s not easy with Saddam either...

You´d have to make sure he doesn´t make himself a hero in the eyes of the world, or a martyr. He´d have some interesting knowledge on Russians and that could be quite humiliating to the allied.
( Maybe he would know something of the western allied as well.)For example to my knowledge the secret part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop deal Aug 1939 was brought up in the Nuremberg hearings and the Russians did not know beforehand....

So it might have been better to make Hitler "vanish" in the battle of Berlin ?

 

Hitler being judged at Nuremberg?! That's insane!

Can you imagine Hitler speaking freely by hours and hours during the trials as he did in 1923?!

Everyone is underestimating him. Even the judges could have raised up and yelled "Heil Hitler!" after listening to one of the Führer's long monologues...

Besides, it is impossible for with Hitler's personality to even suposse he would have let them catch him alive. The man was physically sick, completely out of reality, physically and mentally exhausted, he lacked the nerve and will of previous years and his paranoia was at huge levels. Not to mention that it wouldn't have been the British or the Americans the ones to capture him, but Stalin's Red Army. And what about him watching pictures of Mussolini hanging from a hood in Milan?

In any case he wouldn't have shot himself, he would have scaped from Berlin, which I also doubt.

 

I really don't think he would be put on trial at Nuremberg, I jus think that he will go straight to the chair, that is...of course if the Us catured him, but if the Soviets had, I think that the NKVD would torture him, and then he will be exposed at the Kremling, untill he just died.

 

I think they would have awarded him the Order of Victory for his magnificent services rendered in facilitating and maximising the defeat of the III Reich.

"Awarded ... resulting in a radical change of the situation in favor of the Soviet Armed Forces. "

 

I think the allies would have left him to the Russians so they could tear him apart.

 

An old thread back from the dead, similar to another one we had active recently.

 

If Hitler was put in a zoo his health would had hit rock bottom and good night.

Stalin may have given Hitler a good kicking and set the rats on him.

 

Of the war criminals who were at the Nuremburg trials, how many of those were captured by the Russians? I would say that the cold war would have started a lot earlier because I cannot see the Russians handing over Hitler.

 

I would have loved to see Stalin and Hitler just slugging it out in a boxing ring.

 

(If the text is anything more offensive than 'Zap', 'Kapow', 'take that!' etc., then apologies, you never know with strange international stuff )

Cheers,
Adam.

 

Heres the short version....

Stalin: I offered friendship but you chose war!

Hitler: Im going to gather my strength and crush you u Caucus scum..

Stalin: Boom! The Soviet people are stronger!

 

The interesting point today , as I watch my ideas from some years back, for me is that the Red Army did not know where actually Hitler was during the end battle ( the bunker ), nor were there a group to find Hitler and arrest him. The same applied to the Western Allied on getting the nazi criminals in jail, thus letting them escape through Vatican/Italy or Switzerland. This is something I find rather shocking. They definitely knew they were going to put them in court later on, but did not do their best to catch them first.

Also the USSR did not inform on Hitler´s death until early 1960´s so the best the people had was that Hitler was announced in the mid-1950´s dead on the facts known by then. So possibly it Hitler was caught he would have ended up in Stalin´s secret chambers...next to the wildlife animals...

 

Enjoy this FGTH Two tribes video of what happened in 1984...Close to the same thing! ( I was in the UK 1984 when the single was released so not 1983 )



YouTube - FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD - Two Tribes(1983)

 

Dunno about this Kai, Lev Bezymenski in his fascinating 'The Death of Adolf Hitler' tells of NKVD teams specifically tasked to seek out the Fuhrer or his corpse. Admittedly he later made some retractions about the autopsy he was associated with, but I don't think the rest of the book suffers too much from gross innacuracy.
He writes of immense political pressure driving the hunt, with diplomatic officers arriving from Moscow specifically carrying word of the priority to be given to seeking the major war criminals, and how his unit (NKVD/KGB) were not alone.
I'd agree that they didn't know where Hitler was, but if even part of Bezymenski's book is to believed, the search for information and associated interrogations of captured Staff members was very forcefully directed.

In fact I'd recommend it, as it captures a feverish contemporary atmosphere rather well, despite (or perhaps because of) it's origins in the Soviet era. The Autopsy reports on Hitler, Braun, the Goebbels family, Krebs (complete with photographs of the charnel house around the bunker, and on the slab, even Blondi's corpse), are grimly fascinating.

Cheers,
Adam.

 

I think he would have almost certainly have been killed. He was already ill and quite old at the time (I think) and so wouldn't have lasted long, esp if the Russians had caught him.

 

Hmmm.. yes, Adam, I guess I totally forgot that one.

The next problem is that Stalin did not believe the report delivered to him in the first place and one year later all the top nazis from the bunker were taken back to where everything happened and the action was filmed. I guess Stalin did not believe Hitler was dead, and was totally disappointed by the clumsy report on Hitler´s death. And usually if Stalin was disppointed you faced the wall...

Also the book is "interesting" as the woman known as Eva Braun had a schrapnel wound that had led into a blood leakage into the lung corner ( a compartment between lungs and the chest muscles/ribs ). The weird thing is that if you´re dead blood does not flow into compartments in the human being, so Eva should have been alive at that time. Nobody though has info that Eva would have been wounded. So Eva is probably not Eva but Hitler might be Hitler in the book. Even with one testicle like the autopsy said.