501 Sqdn Spitfire 5 losses vs one Ju88. Research request. 25/4/1942

[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]501 Sqdn Spitfire losses vs Ju88 loss records?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]Research request for:[/SIZE]
Spitfire, Mk.Vb AB179 SD-?
Spitfire, Mk.Vb AB251 SD-?
Spitfire, Mk.Vb W3840 SD-?
Spitfire, Mk.Vb BL974 SD-?
Spitfire, Mk.Vb W3894 SD-?

[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]I am [/SIZE]NOT[SIZE=14.44444465637207px] an expert at Lufwaffe claims.[/SIZE]
Edit: 18 Spitfires and one Hurricane were claimed April 25th 1942

Edit: 18 Spitfires and one Hurricane were claimed April 25th 1942

[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]I would like to see accuracy in these five 501 Sqdn losses, and the loss included at [/SIZE]http://lostaircraft.com[SIZE=14.44444465637207px] for:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]Storm's Ju88 (no loss posted there yet) for cross reference purposes.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]Secondly, I would like to include the full crew of Storm's Ju88 and pictures of him[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]- and / or the BF 100s that may have claimed the 4 other RAF 501 Squadron aircraft.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]References:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]Archived thread here: [/SIZE]http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archive/index.php?t-16852.html
[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]and [/SIZE]http://www.absa3945.com/Pertes%20Bretagne/Finistere/pertes_raf_finistere.html

[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]I welcome you to dive into the [/SIZE]http://lostaircraft.com/database.php[SIZE=14.44444465637207px] and accurately edit these and any other loss records there.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.44444465637207px]Many are still missing. Work is progressing on these, but again, your assistance is welcomed.[/SIZE]

 

If in fact, these five 501 Squadron Spitfires were ± the actions of this one Ju88, it may indeed be one of THE battles of the ages.
I for one, would like to see as complete a record (story) of this melee as our resources here can come up with.
Tnx!

This has been cross posted at: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8

 

From the Loss Record for W3894 at http://lostaircraft.com/database.php?mode=viewentry&e=30212

Spitfire Factory: Eastleigh, Merlin 45 Engine.
During the flight on the October 9, 1941 501 Sqdn in full strength encountered a JU 88.
The bomber was destroyed, the victory was credited as collective to the squadron.
Spitfire Mk. Vb W3894 was shot down by a Ju 88 that was the sole enemy aircraft combating against a 12 aircraft melee.
One has to have a degree of sympathy for the German crew who faced twelve Spitfires lining up, time and again, to have another go!

However, five (5) Spitfires of 501 Squadron were shot down this day, April 25th 1942, all presumably in the combat with this sole Ju 88.
See: BL974 W3840 AB251 and AB179 (Links above) - all others possibly as claims recorded by Bf 109s in that area that day.
The Ju 88 was eventually shot down by the squadron.

The Ju 88 pilot Stormer and his crew didn not have a chance of escape and he too thought that this was the end.
When he came to the surface a Spitfire circled him so low that he could clearly see the pilots face.

Crew member? Meckelburg with 8/KG 51 was shot down & taken POW/released 24 May 40

The text of the ORB gives: "An exciting afternoon resulting in the squadron getting a Ju 88.
The enemy aircraft appeared to be on a recce and did not appear to be carrying bombs.
None were jettisoned. Enemy aircraft seemed to be heavily armoured but armament and camouflage were standard.
Return fire was experienced but it was not very accurate. The aircraft was slowly losing height but at high speed.
All aircraft of 501 Squadron had opened fire on the Ju 88 at ranges varying from 50ft to 400yds.

From: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archive/index.php?t-16852.html
Alternatively, at: http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircraft-production-data/spitfire-and-seafire/w3894.html
Shot down by Bf109s nr Cherbourg 25-4-42 F/O A Palmer-Tomkinson killed

 

My WW2 hero...pictured, took out 5 Stukas in one sortie...in a spitfire.
Have not ever heard of 88 kills over spitfires...(doesnt mean much though). Sounds like an awesome story...

 

PLEASE edit your post to add his picture. OK Chum? Tnx!

He (Storm) may have been too busy ditching to see his victim go in. From the accounts at the Luftwaffe website (above) it sounds very much like he survived to tell the story.
Hopefully, hopefully it is indeed out there. Fingers crossed.

 

wittyhawk - moderator at: http://lostaircraft.com
Just entered the data for Storrms Junkers 88 D-2 258 4U+AH 1(F)/123
Leutnant Paul Störner Inj
Unteroffizier Georg Höner Navigator KIA
Obergefreiter Albert Meckelburg Radio Operator KIA
Unteroffizier Gunther Grundke Rear Gunner - Status missing or dead

Enjoy!

Edit:
More info on this very interesting engagement at:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archive/index.php?t-16852.html

 

He's my avatar...Clive Caldwell.

 

So put that (Clive Caldwell. ) in your sig line for your Avatar, chum. K? Example: Mine: