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I don't even think its the Jews/Muslims/Hindus/Buddhists who are offended...
Its just those dammned know-it-all media reporters and uni students stirring crap; the kind who support gay rights for dolphins, freedom of speech for trees etc.


but that shouldn't stop us being able to sing carols
All together now!
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Allthough Im not a college student yet, they annoy me so freakin' much. Its ironic that a place of higher learning contains the most ignorant, annoying people on Earth.

 

The legendary Southern gentleman and comedian Jerry Clower would say they are educated beyond their means.

 

And I'd have to agree with him. I'm amazed (and often disgusted) at what goes on in America's universities and colleges. :roll:

 

Plus, they have these "student councils" which are token representatives of the student body, but in a lot of universities they assert control over the students and make thier own decisions on policy and try to enforce it. Like honestly, they have no jurisdiction whatsoever and most students don't care about them, besides some politically active or politically aspiring ones.

For example, here in Canada one university union banned the military from recruiting on campus for the career fair. They said canadian troops had commited attrocities in Afghanistan and that the student populace was ignorant of the military and they needed to make the decision for them. LIke honestly, they have no right to do that, nor do they have the proof that any attrocities occured. Just a bunch of ignorant leftist dicks. What sucks is that almost every student union is like this and they try to overstep their token bounds and assert their views over everyone. Why is it always the left ? You never hear of right wing students doing anything. Well, they probably realized that free speech on campus is for those who are left-center, left wing only. Same people who preach all this tolerance and stuff.

 

If you spend these days celebrating the birth of Jesus, then at least you're giving it some meaning, so I honestly hope you have a great time. Santa Claus and his hyper-Americanized commercialization spree sickens me thoroughly.

I don't know where all this stuff about left-leaning students comes from, but over here the only student unions you hear about are the nigh-fascist right-wing conservative ones, the ones that almost kill their new members in their hazing periods and that cannot keep their long-time members from sexually assaulting minors at parties. These are all people that vote Liberal (which is to say, economically conservative), study Law and Economics and all that, and want to make sure no immigrant or lower-class worker ever benefits from the wealth of the country. They're a really great alternative to the Marxist fringe...

Which, incidentally, is such a tiny minority that you honestly never hear them make any statement whatsoever. It makes sense not to take such rusted idealists too seriously.

 

Canada is very different, Roel. The unions I speak of are generally in the US and canada, maybe the UK

 

Growing-up in a college-town in the midwest... we locals always referred to them as "educated idiots."
They may be a leading authority in their field of study... but haven't a clue how to start a push lawnmower.

Tim

 

Nice one , lol

 

I have this theory.......

When God hands out brains & common sense. It's always in inverse proportions.

 

I feel somewhat uncomfortable now - this is my fourth year as a university student, all my friends are university students...

David, I sure hope your theory isn't true, or else we'll get people hoping they don't have brains!

 

Roel.

Don't worry!

Every rule has it's exceptions.
















Some people have neither common sense nor brains!!!

 

Yep, and in the USA, they're called "politicians".

 

I have a wierd view on students.

On the one hand, I was one only 6 years ago. Obviously I - and my friends - were amazingly level-headed, possessing both brains and common sense. Now I work at a University, and all students seem so dumb, lacking either brains or common sense or both.
To be fair, in my job I only really see the students who are having problems, which tend to be the less able ones.

But to be serious, I think it is simply idealism. Younger people tend to see things in a more 'black & white' way. University is a place where new ideas are pumped into you. Put that together, and you get an excess of idealism.

 

These ideas are almost always from the left. God, they're so misinformed and ignorant. This just bother me because I'm progressive conservative and pro-military.

 

Yes, and the idea that so many universities in the USA will not allow military recruiters on-campus, but will invite people like the president of Iran to sopeak before them, really gets my goat. :angry:

 

Why?

The president of Iran is a political figure who can provide his perspective on the world for the students to study and learn from (which does not imply any need to accept his views). A military recruiter, on the other hand, is basically a salesman who tries to get people to leave university and join the armed forces. While both no doubt have their own particular bias, it is obvious to me which one of these two is more valuable to a university.

If you were in charge of a university, would you allow a government employee to come to your campus and try to convince your students to pack their bags and go to war?

Would you allow a political leader to speak to your students, considering that he represents a region and a culture that is the subject of an extremely important ongoing political debate?

CSP: your characterization of the political left is insulting. Such generalizing and degrading remarks cannot be tolerated. If you want to make a point, make it with arguments instead of namecalling.

 

I did make a point. Its no freaking secret that universities are hotbeds for intolerant leftist's. And take into account I implied it wasnt always the left. How is it insulting ? I said they have influence and make decisions , which are made out of ignorance and misguided idealism hand in hand in a cooperative fashion. Namecalling ? The closest I have come to that is calling them "ignorant" or addressing them as "those leftists". I said them because I believe their decisions and many of their beliefs are made out of lack of understanding

 

I was always under the impression that they tried to convince you to join the Army after you finish University. Which is actually in the University's interests, as it helps get their 'students who leave University and enter employment' statistics up.

 

You wrote, "God, they're so misinformed and ignorant". This is a blanket statement (applying to "them" as if all Leftists are the same) which attributes certain negative traits (ignorance and a reliance on misinformation) to every single member of the group without distinction or support by any argument whatsoever. That is namecalling plain and simple. Even aside from all the implications of starting your sentence with a sigh of desperation, all this is quite insulting to anyone who might consider himself leftist without feeling any affiliation to the radical groups from the campuses that you seem to be agitating against.

"It's no freaking secret" is no argument either, even aside from the fact that I have no way of knowing this without actually studying the subject, since it is going on six thousand kilometers away from me in another country with another culture. Give me some examples and I will readily accept the point; if you take your own view for granted and think you can judge every leftist by it, you are only insulting people.

Ricky: a fair point, but that still doesn't make a military recruiter helpful to the intellectual interests of a univeristy.