7th Cav?

I read today that the 7th Cavlary was the only unit in History to lose all of there men in 1 battle.

The battle of little big horn.

Is this true?

Ill try to find the website again.

 

No, that is incorrect. All of the men in the unit with Custer were killed but there were two other units from the 7th cavalry in the area. IIRC the 7th Cavalry had about 50% of the regiment killed in action at the Little Big Horn.

 

That sounds about right.

 

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the seventh is a bit of a cursed unit , I've read that it got badly bruised in vietnam at the ia drang battle .

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custers crow scouts told him there were more souix warriors in the valleys up ahead than his troopers had cartridges ....custer said somethig like ..lets hurry so they dont get away this time ...custer was a very brave and lucky cavalry leader in the union army prior to bighorn the press called him the boy general ..iirc the youngest in the G.A.R.

 

I heard Ambrose say he moved up by going over his soldiers back.

 

In the sense that his units took high casualties, it's true. In his defense, no one has ever doubted his personal bravery. He took more risks than he asked his men to take.

 

He had to, otherwise they would have despised him and likely would not have followed him. You had to show a lot of courage under fire to win the respect of Civil War soldiers on both sides.

 

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The worst union cavalry commander got to be kilpatrick ," nicknamed killcavalry "
amonst other stuff up ,at gettysburg he ordered a cavalry charge in a boulders strew forest and got them killed

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Yep, and got a promising young Union general named Farnsworth killed in the process.

Later in the war, in North Carolina, there occured what became known as "Kilpatrick's Shirt-Tail Skedaddle". Confederate General Wade Hampton caught Kilpatrick literally in bed (and no, he was not alone) and the Federal had to jump on a horse and flee in his night shirt. Made him the laughingstock of the Union Army for awhile there.

 

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I have not much time for jeb stuart but am a big fan of wade hampton ,
a man who went to war with his private legion . but was all business and no flash , faithfull to the end .
of the sons of the south ,another favorite of mine is the much misunderstood nathan bedford forrest ,often seens " merely " as a hell raider , he was in fact a subtle strategist ,a careful general and a good man .the only thing he ever murdered was english spelling

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Forrest is my favorite general.

 

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for the boys in blue , I have a great fondness for black jack logan the union
answers to pat cleburne

he knew how to hate , he probably was the best corp commander of the union army , well qualified for army command , always denied to him (except for one day !)
his private war with westpointers in general and sherman in particular are so refreshing , but he always obeyed orders , even if swearing blue hell while doing so !

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Sherman, for Union Hill for Confederate

 

Which Hill?

 

Forrest was also a founding member of the Klu Klux Klan.

 

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well , he wasn't , the first Klan was one of the many " knights "organisations popular in the mid century ,both to the left and right ,
the use of greek letters was also noticeable in student fraternal societies
the name mean the circle clan or keiclos klan mutated into ku klux Klan
it was founded in 1866 in pulasky , tenessee , by six idles young gentlemen of southern sympathies , the ranks and grades are consistent with a fervid imagination
titans , wizard , dragons
during the election of 1867 the question of the franchise of ex confederates who did not pledge alliegance to the U.S. occupation became an issue ,
the K.K.K was inflated by a local paper into a massive secret army of ex soldiers ready to rise again , nathan bedford forrest name was mentionned
he was at the time ,trying to get a railways project going and went along implicily with the tall tale ,
things snowballed from there with report of KKK activities all over the south , the targets were the carpetbagers , union blacks , and local worthies associated too closely witth the despised yankees , many confederates participated ,
however the complete lack of any structure changed the movement into anarchy everybody was doing what they wanted , claiming to act for the Klan ,the whole thing slided into an embarassment
the confederates grandees dissociated themselves from the Klan , forrest had repudiated any affiliation less than a year after , the tenessee elections being over
forrest became a vocal proponent of racial reconciliation ,
he died well , after an honorable life
the Klan slided into banditry hunted ruthlessly by the grant administration

the second clan apeared in the 1910 and was a much more structured thing ,less southern , more anti-catholic anti-semite anti-black much closer to the know-nothing movement of the 1850 , whole midwest states were under its influence in the fifties .
It was hunted into practical extinction by the first catholic , pro-jewish , pro -black president and his brother , both later assassinated




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I was aware of these things also, jeaguer however I usually avoid the issue entirely since I often become a catalyst for emotional and overwrought debate on controversial issues related to US history.
I'm more than a little impressed with your knowledge of US history far beyond the superficial level that would be expected by the vast majority of people.

One minor point. Those that read your last sentence and weren't already aware of the facts might feel tempted to connect it in some way with their activities in hunting this perverted incarnation of the Klan into extinction. It should be pointed out that JFK was assassinated by a Socialist and RFK was assasinated by a deranged Palestinian.

 

*This post has no value beyond mild attempts at humour.*

Surely not!

You mean it wasn't a Klan Konspiracy? Actually, that is one that I have not heard yet - maybe I should re-start our 'Conspiracy' topic!

 

Never underestimate the gullibility of the conspiricy theory buffs.

ps I included deranged in my discription of Sirhan Sirhan since all Palestinians are not deranged. For the same reason I felt it would be redundant to include it as an adjective for Socialist