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Anti-Americanism Running Rampant in Canada

Discussion in 'The Stump' started by KodiakBeer, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    That's ok. I think the same about those who think as you do, but it's a free country for now so enjoy it while it lasts.
     
  2. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    Not about guns, about control.
     
  3. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Really? Too much Fox News going on here.
     
  4. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Really? I see it as too much CNN, PMSNBC, ABC and all the other liberal slanted news media going on in the country. But that's the liberal way, they want everyone to have an open mind, and to accept their line of thought and philosophy, and to drop yours. But really it's a great thing for people to have rights and ideas, opinions and such. That's what the Constitution provides for. And I'll defend it. And I'll defend your right to believe what you believe in too, without hesitance. Done it all my life, might as well do it till the end.
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I made some comments about the 2nd Amendment myself, but this is a Canadian politics thread. I can split off the extraneous debate or we let the thread drift back to plumb.
     
  6. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Back on topic here....

    If things continue as they are going, we'll be just like Canada eh!
     
  7. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    The oath I took didn't say anything about cherry-picking the Constitution to decide which parts I'd protect and defend.

    And, another point, 8 years ago would you have claimed the Constitution said anything about personal gun ownership? No, because it doesn't.
     
  8. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Ain't no cherry picking going on. Give your guns up if it makes you happy. Not me. Anyway, this is a Canadian politics thread, so get in step with the program.
     
  9. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    If you're willing to destroy the country to keep your guns, based on one amendment that doesn't actually say anything about personal gun ownership, that's cherry-picking, shipmate.
     
  10. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    Don't you own a 50 cal rifle OP?...might have you mixed up with someone else.

    My opinion would be- the country is destroyed because government takes away liberty, not that folks want to keep their guns.

    Don't be like Canada. Criminals still possess guns, honest folk don't. Just look up handgun crime in Calgary/Toronto... After the gun laws, honest folk don't have them. Criminals do.
     
  11. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    BTW, that "everybody's wrong but Fox" is simply amazing. You do know that they're not allowed to call themselves a news service in Canada, right? And that the second largest share holder is a Saudi prince?
     
  12. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    I'll call the wahbulance for you now. You can't give it a rest. No use talking sense into you about this being a Canadian politics thread.
     
  13. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I own a Browning M2 .50 cal. heavy machine gun. It's current on long term loan to a certain state agency for training purposes.

    Full disclosure. I have been a owner and a shooter since 1965. I was trained in firearms safety and how to shoot by a one-legged Marine who retired in my home town. He wanted someone to go with his son when he went shooting. I spent three months learning about guns and cleaning them before I ever pulled a trigger. Later in life I called him "Gunny Miyagi." I collected guns for years, all of which had some connection to the USN. The .50 saw duty in Vietnam, one reason I kept it when I donated the other pieces to the Smithsonian. I cleared the house because I was having untrained people visiting and I couldn't face buying another gun safe.

    And to be clear, I DO NOT WANT ALL YOUR GUNS. I just think we have too damn many in the US right now. My very large family has what they call "the Big Fifty", being the fifty family members with the most guns. Collectively they have over 7,000 guns. Average that out, math wizards.
     
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    Gentlemen,

    First of all let me state that I think we have the best neighbours on the planet, more like family really. We in Canada have also had problems with those who would wish to remove our freedoms (there are many and gun ownership is one of them). When the Liberals were in power they brought in gun registration. They didn't say that they were going to like Hillery, they just did. Well as you can prbably well imagine this was a giant waste of money and did not do any good as it is only the law bidding citizens that registered their guns (me being one of them). The criminals didn't bother. I mean after all if you are planning on comitting murder why would you worry if the gun was registered?

    Anyhpw the point is we gun owners did not start building coffins but we became more political, this lit a fire under our butts and we voted out the Liberals and elected a Conservative government who said that they would repeal this useless law and they did. Kind of nice living in a democracy you don't have to kill anyone.

    The bigger problem in my mind is why do we have monsters that wish to cause so much pain and grief to their fellow citizens? It didn't used to be this way with much more relaxed gun laws. That is the question we need to answer.

    KTK
     
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    That's the way things are headed here, but it won't go as nice and easy as it did in Canada. Different dynamics at work down here. The liberals we have are more vicious than the local Canadian variety. As I mentioned before somewhere, we have that "Lexington and Concord" thing going here, and further down South of the Mason Dixon Line (but not in St. Louis where OP lives) we have the Civil War thing too. Old times here are not forgotten easily.
     
  16. Poppy

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    Wonder how your family would react if they were told to give up their guns?
    Would bet they'd hang on to some of them- for protection. ..Then they'd be criminal.
     
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    And the mass majority of them and their owners never break the law or climb a tower and start popping caps at innocent people. Hate to point it out, but uber lib Ted Kennedy and his car killed more people than most gun owners ever have. Too many guns? Who's to say what's too many? Who gave them that right? And ammo too, is that to be rationed as well?

    If things keep going the way the democrats want it to go, awe'll be just like Canada, in the gun owning department in particular. Don't take it wrong, Canada is a beautiful place, visited Banff 3 times to go skiing. I'll go again when the USD/CD spread goes back in favor of the greenback in a heartbeat, or when I ride through on the way to Alaska on my motorbike one day. I was a policeman for over 30 years. I know that the police can't be everywhere all the time to defend everyone. It's ultimately up to the citizens to defend their family and property. There's a lot of bad people out there, and most of them ain't in the penitentiary. And the democrats want to take that away from those who have to defend themselves? Trust us, we're from the government, we are here to help you? Not going to happen. Might be time for a little shake up to get things back on track. I must admit, it is nice to live in a dream world.
     
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    As long as the 2nd Amendment is the law of the land, that ain't gonna happen. Besides, there are as many or more unregistered weapons lying around as there are registered one. None of my throwdowns are registered.
     
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    I'll rebut that when you start a 2nd Amendment thread, but not here. The right of the PEOPLE to have a Canada/US friendship thread shall not be infringed.
     
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    A-58 Cool Dude

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    The democrats won't allow it. To them, if someone wants something, it must be wrong and taxed and regulated out of existence. Canadian/US friendship will be frowned upon and demonized. It's just the way they are. If Canadian/US friendship is wrong, I don't wanna be right!
     

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