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Discussion in 'Small Arms and Edged Weapons' started by Will, Nov 2, 2002.

  1. ScreamingEagleMG42

    ScreamingEagleMG42 Member

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    Thanks very much for the link, i guess i dont really like the idea of shooting commercial ammo through my garand either way. However it is probably very useful or necessary for somebody experimenting with their own loads.
     
  2. lwd

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    I said pun not gun. A previous post said something like "you sound like a Garand man" which now compare that to "you sound like a grand man"
    Both are probably accurate but...
     
  3. higginator

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    I like the m1 carbine. Sure it has a short range, but i like the 15-30 rd semi auto. I have one myself.
     
  4. ScreamingEagleMG42

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    Totally agree with you. That little carbine is a lot of fun and always draws a lot of interested attention when your shooting it. Despite what many think it can really be quite accurate out to about 100- 150 yards or so.
     
  5. DAVEB47

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    I shoot surplus ammo through my Garand as well, but the supply is bound to run out. M1 carbines are a lot of fun and and are a great intro guns for youngsters or really anybody. Expanding bullets greatly increases the stopping power of these guns. I put my CMP Inland in a repro folding stock and that really draws some stares.
     
  6. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    That makes more sense now. I didn't know if you were insulting my sense of humor or my taste in weapons. I am glad I waited to see how things played out.

    Brad
     
  7. tommy tater

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    Mauser: Gewehr 43
    Enfield: Lee Enfield MKII
    Hanyang: Type 88
    Manufacture d'Armes de St. Etienne: Mas-36
    Mannlicher: 35M Puska
    Arisaka: Type 99
    Tokarev: SVT-40
    Springfield armory: M1903 Springfield
     
  8. Niles23

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    M1 carbine
     
  9. mglmgbn

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    I'm going to have to go with the M1, because I really do think it turned the tide in a gunfight. Eight rounds without having to change your line of sight because you have to deal with loading the chamber. And its got that big .30 cal round in it too which would make the other guy coming at you pretty unhappy if he got in the way of that.

    But the stg44 really did revolutionize rifles by being the first assault rifle but I really just have a soft spot for the m1.
     
  10. Oliver Bark

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    I think the Sturmgewehr 44 was definitely the best rifle used in the war but, since it wasn't used until 1944, Germany had already as good as lost by the time it was issued. If Hitler didn't order it to not be produced because it was ugly (of course, it was given the go-ahead after its power was shown), it might have been used earlier in the war and made a bigger difference.
     
  11. kkd

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    If the STG44 is on the list, the M1 Thompson should listed too

    A Thompson would be my choice to hump over France or through a Pacific jungle. A lot of weight to carry , but hey, hard to beat it's firepower!

    My second choice would be the Garand. It's as accurate as any of the bolt guns and pretty darn reliable too.
     
  12. brndirt1

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    Hitler didn't interfer because it was "ugly", he never saw it until it had been produced and issued to the troops on the Ost Front. When they asked what he could ship them to make their lives easier they wanted more of the "new rifles"! Hitler had declared no new rifles were to be developed, so the arms people disguised it under the name of a new machine pistol. Hitler always liked the idea of the machine pistol and didn't realize the MP-43 was anything but an improvement on the MP-40. After he got over his rage at being deceived, and was shown the unit, he approved it wholeheartedly. But the earliest it could have appeared was in late 1943 anyway.

    They weren't all that reliable in the beginning, but they did get better toward the end. They were very complex compared to the later AK-47, and shared nothing except appearance with each other. Form follows function.
     
  13. phmohanad

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    The Best Rifle Was The Soviet Semi-Automatic Rifle SVT-40 (7.62x54mm)!
    It was More Accurate than Any American or German Semi Auto Rifles in WW2!!
    Also Its 10 Bullets Clip si bigger than 8 Bullets American M1 Garand!!
     
  14. brndirt1

    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    The accuracy of the SVT is not in the discussion really, since as a combat weapon that would be secondary to its reliability and ease of operation. The extra two shots is fine, as is the ease of reloading this weapon.

    The SVT-40 had a somewhat controversial reputation. It was highly regarded by the enemies (Finns and Germans) and it was a very sought-after war trophy, re-issued to both German and Finnish troops. On the other hand, it was often considered unreliable and over-complicated by the Soviet troops (when comparing with old Mosin-Nagant rifles),… (attributed to poor training and rifle disciple in the article)

    Overall, the SVT-40 was in general no worse than American M1 Garand (and have some advantages over it, especially in the reloading procedures), and obviously better than earlier German Gew.41 semi-automatic rifles.

    From (a Russian site):

    Modern Firearms - Rifle - Tokarev SVT-38 SVT-40

    They acknowledge both it's highs and lows, and BTW it isn't called a CLIP, that is a box magazine.
     
  15. rik_uk3

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    When I was involved in shooting back in the 80's I had a little M2, it was a cracking little rifle, perfect for ratting:)
     

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