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Churchill turning his back on Poland

Discussion in 'Post War 1945-1955' started by Ben Dover, Mar 31, 2016.

  1. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    @wm.

    You really don't have elementary sense of shame.

    Yes, Poles have been granted the land, soil, dirt, name ti whatever you want. You can swallow it if you are hungry. But you have expulsed the elite who was capable handling that land, making it a Paradise on Earth. Now, you have destroyed everything, your economy is in disarray and Poles are looking for jobs elsewhere, you want Europe, predominantly Germany to recover your country and grant you substantial subventions. Where your begging business ends? When you are going to stop begging and accusing others that they've turned their backs on Poland. Please, be quiet, have some respect for victims of Polish wild chauvinistic expansionism and start working instead of whining.
     
  2. OhneGewehr

    OhneGewehr New Member

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    This is far more complicated.
    Most of these houses didn't belong to those, who lived there. Why should they maintain them?
    And then there was this sentiment that they live in a foreign country, only borrowed. Whereas the german refugees in the West knew, that they could stay and everything they achieve will belong to them.
     
  3. m kenny

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    Interesting that you automatically assume that. One could be forgiven for thinking that this was so common that you feel it pointless to deny it and instead try and defend it.
     
  4. wm.

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    I assumed that a bunch of smug Westerners with their shinny gear spooked some old folks, people thinking that court enforcement agents would arrive shortly, confiscate their homes, and kick them out onto the street.

    The other was just the most extreme case, so we don't waste time on some in-between scenarios.
     
  5. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    @wm.

    Jesus Christ. Have you drank too much vodka today? Sober up.

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  6. wm.

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    I would gladly agree with many of you statements, but you always have to say the other stupid nonsense.
    Sorry for using a dirty word but you must a progressive, those people can't think logically, at all.

    Today's Poland is 25% smaller than pre-war. This means the Allies stole from the Poles one fifth of their land.
    So how come the people who lost so much territory can be called expansionists?

    Please explain, you have a chance to prove you are not a progressive :)


    And then:
    - the Paradise was the most shitty part of Germany,
    - the Polish economy is one of the most healthiest in Europe, although obviously not one of the richest,
    - the Poles arriving over there want to replace their relatively good life with a much better life. It's not like they are dying in droves in Poland,
    - the Germans will not survive without Poles and their neighbors, unless they want to live in a Muslim country. Poles become good Germans in one generation.
     
  7. wm.

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    Not quite, Poland was the only country where the communists didn't dare touch private property. They confiscated anything larger than a farm, or mom and pop bossiness but generally left the people alone.

    But 100+ hectares was too much, nobody would be given that. I think it's more likely the communists created a kolkhoz there, it eventually failed, and people looted everything they could.

    Lots of things were destroyed like that, they gave some nice property to some bureaucratic state monstrosity, and with time nothing was left. Only in Lower Silesia over 800 German palaces was destroyed through lack of capital, neglect, theft. The real reason of course was the lack of a real owner. This is why the communists, socialists, and their modern incarnations are the scourge of the Earth. They ruin everything.

    But it is true that the people forced to live there didn't repair or even paint their new homes for ever 20 years, at all. They thought it wasn't worth the bother, the Germans would return and kick them out.
     
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    Don't drink shit which is not triple distilled.
     
  9. Tamino

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    Ah, you drink imported Vodka - "Wodka Gorbatschow", made in Germany. In quality we trust.

    Let me correct you: the German text on the label "Dreifach Kältgefiltert" means: filtrated three times in cold, not distilled three times. There is no need for "triple distillation" - "pure" ethanol produced by distillation may be obtained in a single step process; it is a mixture with a composition of ethanol 95% and water with 5%. With distillation you may not go further above that limit. It is complicated matter, but it is sufficient to state that that composition is named Azeotropic mixture. If you want pure, absolute ethanol, one more separation step is required, so that the water content in rectified spirit is removed completely. But this is another story.

    Just drink - alcohol will seemingly help you to cope with difficulties life, but ultimately will destroy your bile tract and brains. The later is already damaged anyways.

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  10. wm.

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    I don't know.
    I thought filtration was used to remove things from liquids; dirt, fly droppings, or maybe bacterium. So the question is why are they doing it so many times. Their water seems to be shitty.
    Distillation not only removes unwanted things like fly droppings, but unwanted liquids too. In this case less unwanted liquids means reduced hangover.
    But distillation is much more expensive than filtration. So maybe they filtrate three times through their boss' sock for example, and hope their clients confuse filtration with distillation.
     
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    There are lots processes which use multiple stages of filtration.
     
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    Still I thought booze producers use clean as a whistle artesian water, not water from a nearest swamp - which would probably require multistage filtration.
     
  13. Tamino

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    I have always thought that Poles are experts on booze. Wrong, judging from your amateurish knowledge - Poles are just rather enthusiastic consumers of everything that contains alcohol of any sort: methanol, propanol, butanol...

    Didn't you know: never dilute any booze with ordinary tap water of any sort or quality. You may dilute booze only with demineralised water because minerals from ordinary water affect the taste. Anyways, as a Pole you usually want to increase the content of alcohol, not to dilute it.

    Now, in this particular case filtration, a special one, is required to eliminate the bad taste of raw vodka, to make it "smooth". There are different technologies but German Gorbatschow vodka is first chilled and then filtered in a series of mechanical filters to make it practically without any odor or bar taste.
     
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    Wasn't so much the Mongols as it was the Teutonic Knights which troubled Poland. Marienburg was their capital after their defeat it became part of Poland.... Borders change all the time...
     
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    Distillation will remove pretty much anything solid at room temperature so most things that are easy to remove by filtration. It does tend to concentrate, especially if temperatures aren't well controlled, some volatile liquids including alcohols other than ethanol. Most hangovers are caused by dehydration though and since distillation is primarily aimed at removing water one could better state that it increases hangovers. Removing other alcohols on the other hand will reduce some ill effects some of which may resemble hangovers.
     

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