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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by CAC, Dec 9, 2015.

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  1. Sloniksp

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    You sure your not jealous? :rofl: :D ;)
     
  2. bronk7

    bronk7 Well-Known Member

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    big negative........you are wrong and I believe it is documented here......I've been saying the same thing loooooong before this election .....I said it after 9-11, Ft Hood, Iran Hostage Crisis, etc
    this is a big circle again.....it will not be a good time when I/we said ''we told you so''
     
  3. lwd

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    And it's at least as clear that there are more and better reasons for not doing so.
     
  4. lwd

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    There have been what half a dozen Moslem Americans who have committed terrorist acts here. Last I read over a dozen had died over seas serving in the US military. So where am I wrong?

    As I've said to a number of the questionable posters here simply repeating your opinion doesn't make it any more valid than stating it once.
     
  5. bronk7

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    the US is getting screwed, exponentially, to the nth degree...we give away mucho $ overseas --both government and private...we send jobs overseas...we bring in millions of workers to the US...how smart is that?? send jobs overseas--bring in workers ??

    these workers send BILLIONS$ to their home countries, sucking it out of the US instead of building up the US economy
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271455/Revealed-How-immigrants-America-sending-120-BILLION-struggling-families-home.html
    and this is just what is documented
    now, some---some--commit crime, collect welfare, etc......this all adds up.....
    we have to hire language teachers for the immigrants..!...adds up adds up.....
    how much do other countries spend $ on ''bringing' in immigrants, processing, caring for them, arresting, deporting, etc....? adds up adds up.....
    ''they take jobs Americans don't want'' BSBSBSBS

    USCIS
    '''We are the 19,000 government employees and contractors of USCIS working at 223 offices across the world.'''

    many non-Americans come to the US for college--so the colleges can rack up the prices for Americans to pay ...and many US students are rejected for certain schools and the sub-schools because they are filled, with some of those as foreigners


    etc etc
    o, yes, and we allow, want, encourage people to come over here to murder us...very smart
     
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  6. m kenny

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    Well they did earn it. Perhaps a new tax where everyone who cant prove their Aryan lineage...........ooops sorry I mean everyone one who isn't white.............oops I mean arbitrary people we can blame for all the ills of the country will have 95% of their earnings diverted to pay more Corporate Welfare? Perhaps a law can be passed that 'immigrants' are only allowed to drink water bottled in Flint?
     
  7. bronk7

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    this has nothing to do with race?? did I bring up race?? as stated before, you bring up racism, hatred, etc and confuse it with common sense......where did I bring up ''white''.....you DON'T know what color, race, etc I am --do you???
    YOU are the one obsessed with race, not me.....
    sending jobs overseas--bringing in workers---??smart??? where in THE HELL do you get ''white'' from this???? you are so obsessed with 'hating' people that you THINK hate other people, you can't think clearly......if you try to make a comment against your thinking=immediate RACIST NAZI ETC........

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-city-council-black-hispanic-caucuses-eddie-johnson-selection/

    take a look at this racism


    caps and bold for yelling only
     
  8. bronk7

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    you are like the W-man that sees a B-man with a hoodie and skittles, and is so obsessed that B-men are criminals---you follow him, and think that he HAS to be a criminal...nothing else is in your mind, except he is a criminal...he stares at you, and you think--''he must be on drugs''....but in reality, he is staring because you keep following him, stalking him......
    DON'T CALL ME A HATER
    bold and caps for yelling only
     
  9. LJAd

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    You will never succeed to convince the ISIS lobby .

    As the left-liberal Hongarian writer Gregoriy Konrad said (and he is an opponent of the Hungarian PM Orban) : "After nazism and communism,the Islam is the thid totalitarian ideology that's threatening Euroe (and the US)".

    And he has the experience of totalitarian ideologies :he lost his parents in the holocaust and lived 40 years under communism .
     
  10. bronk7

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    is this allowed on WW2F ??? to insinuate I'm a NAZI, whatever, etc??? I'm a supremacist ??? why?? because I state facts and the truth---the truth that hurts??

    this is way above indecency, impolite, etc....this calls for an apology from you kenny
     
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    As to the first, have you looked at the prices colleges charge for non US citizens? We had an exchange student for a year which got me curios so I looked around. In some state schools they pay almost triple what a state resident pays and more than double what a US non state resident pays. Doesn't sound like they are being accepted so that prices can be "racked up" for Americans to me.

    As for the last you are simply being ridiculous which is I agree not being very smart.
     
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    Everyone needs to take a chill pill. I am not a supporter of Trump in fact he stands for everything I oppose. However, this thread has degenerated into name-calling and personal attacks. There is nothing productive being said. You can discuss Trump's ideas, but the bounds of good taste must prevail. Neither side will ever convince the other, so be forewarned.
     
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    This is how a UK comic sees the situation.
    There is a childrens TV show called 'Trumpton' and all the characters bar Donald and his goons are from Trumpton and the town next to Trumpton is called 'Chigley'.




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    Who would have believed Windy Miller was a Trump man!


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  14. Takao

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    I think you mean György Konrád(George Konrad)...

    Your wrong, go figure, he did not lose his parents in the Holocaust. They survived, and the family was reunited in June, 1945.

    Unless he is lying on his website: http://www.konradgyorgy.hu/eletrajz.php?lang=eng
    But, then again, you know all about how those lying liberal authors are. They lie all the time, unless they say something that supports your beliefs.
     
  15. m kenny

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    Nothing at all to do with György Konrad

    The actual quote:

    After having overcome fascism, Nazism, and Stalinism, the world now faces a new totalitarian global threat: Islamism.
    We, writers, journalists, intellectuals, call for resistance to religious totalitarianism and for the promotion of freedom, equal opportunity, and secular values for all..............................................We appeal to democrats and free spirits of all countries that our century should be one of Enlightenment, not of obscurantism.


    Signed:
    Salman Rushdie, author, The Satanic Verses
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Somali-born Dutch MP
    Taslima Nasreen, exiled Bangladeshi writer
    Bernard-Henri Levy, French philosopher
    Chahla Chafiq, exiled Iranian writer
    Caroline Fourest, French writer
    Irshad Manji, author, The Trouble with Islam
    Mehdi Mozaffari, professor of political science, University of Aarhus
    Maryam Namazie, producer, TV International English
    Antoine Sfeir, editor, Cahiers de l’Orient
    Ibn Warraq, author, Why I Am Not a Muslim
    Philippe Val, editor, Charlie Hebdo


    From here:

    http://www.telospress.com/confronting-islamist-totalitarianism/
     
  16. Takao

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    please. please tell me how you get ''white'' and ''Aryan'' out of the above?? I don't see any way that you can....unless, --unless--you are so obsessed with the idea that ''whites'' are evil....anything and everything they say is about hatred, etc
    you are the one who is obsessed with race......from your post, it is clear you will make up anything to say the whites are evil...because getting ''white'' and ''Aryan'' from that is really 1 + 1 = 23

    all I see from my above post is immigrants, etc.....they can be white, brown, yellow, black ...?? no??, etc etc
     
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    I honestly think that Donald Trump's Islamophobia in part, is to win the votes of the Bible Belt who'd otherwise see Donald Trump the casino owner,
     
  19. KodiakBeer

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    I'm not a Trump supporter, but to define his position as "Islamophobia" is to ignore the definition of phobia (an irrational fear), as well as his actual position on Islamic immigration, which is only a temporary ban. Nations get to decide who they will allow in and who they won't. An unknown percentage of those middle easterners are indeed radicalized, so it is not irrational to fear allowing them in until they can be properly vetted, which is what Trump's temporary ban calls for. Even those who aren't radicalized have little or no concept of American (or western) values and institutions. They strongly disapprove of our Constitution and Bill of Rights, think women are inferior, approve of Sharia law, etc.

    Basically, we don't need them and that "trumps" their need because it is our country. They don't benefit our economy, they don't like our way of life, they despise our social and political institutions and they present a risk, so why let them in? We already have a huge flow of (mostly) unskilled labor coming in from the south who do share a common western culture and even they present problems, so why open a floodgate of people who despise us?
     
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    Your comment rather reeks. I'm still waiting for a WW2 related post from you.
     
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