Grant in Burma 1944

Hmmm, browsing google will give you pictures of Grants with similar turrets.









Was the only real difference the top mg turret?

 

No, if you see a side profile of the top turret you can see that one has it's rear extended. This was the British (afraid I can never remember if this was the Lee or Grant) version and the extension was to house the radio for the commander, if memory serves, and it did not have the extra cupola for the .30 cal.

 

Ricky.
The photos you posted; to my way of thinking the top two are Grants, the bottom two are Lees. Note the flatter shaped turrets of the Grants. Note the tall cupolas of the Lees.

WE NEED AN ALLIED TANK EXPERT!!

Does Christian "do" Allied tanks?

P.S Google may not be 100% accurate. After all, I could photograph a Lee, caption it incorrectly, say as a Grant. You could type search "Grant" and get the picture of my Lee!

 

The top two pictures are of the Grant I. The British used both designations. Grant I was the M3 with the British turret, Grant II was the M3A5 retaining the original US turret, Lee I was the M3, Lee II was the M3A1 and Lee III was the M3A2.

The tank in Patrice's picture is, as far as I can tell, a Lee I with the cupola removed.

 

Thanks Skua.

Wow!! I never knew that there was a Grant II (the one with the Lee Turret).

As I always used the turret to tell the difference between a Grant & a Lee. Can you tell me how to tell the difference between a Grant II & a Lee please.

Thanks.

 

Yes, top 2 are 'Grant', bottom 2 are 'Lee'

 

The Grant II is identical to the M3A5 ( in other words, the only difference between a Grant II and an M3A5 was that the first was in British service and the latter was not ). The M3A5 was powered by the twin diesel GM 6046 and was similar to the M3A3 except for having a rivited hull. 185 M3A5/Grant IIs were delivered to the British and some of them, if not most of them were fitted with the British turret ( I wrote in my previous post, rather hastily, that they all retained the US turret ), so you will find Grant IIs with both types of turrets.

Both Lee and Grant were British designations, the Americans did not use the name Lee ( officially at least ).

Lee I : M3
Lee II : M3A1
Lee III : M3A2 ( none delivered )
Lee IV : M3A3 ( Continental engined )
Lee V : M3A3 ( GM engined )
Lee VI : M3A4

 

Thanks Skua.