Here is how the Police can get around our right to free speech.

Congratulations, Slip!

Your state must want to make it difficult. I got my Oregon permit after filling out a couple of forms, having my picture taken, and paying around $35. My Washington state permit was even easier; no picture, but I paid IIRC around $40. Both are good for six years.

 

The fire was upstairs where it was started in the bedrooms. When we arrived all the windows upstairs had blown out and flames were coming through the roof.

The street was full of people shouting and screaming and someone comes up and tells us that four men have gone into the house to get the women and child. I looked up and thought if they are up there they are already dead.

We ran round the back of the house through the kitchen door into a kitchen light with only candles and loads of red painting all over the walls saying he hates his wife and is going to kill her and their child in rather graffic terms. That was the first bit that freaked me and the baton got drawn. The next thing I hear is the house burning and the sound of wood falling on the ceiling/floor above and I said to my mate there is no F**king way I'm going up there. The ceiling has a layer of smoke about a foot deep and we start shouting out to the voices we can hear upstairs that we are the Police and to come down. Thankfully they come down but can't find the women and her child and expect us to search for them. I told them the Fire Brigades nearly here and they'll do that.

We get them out to the Paramedics as they arrive and the Fire Brigade kit up with BA's and go in through the house double time with persons reported. Me and my mate notice the owner (who apparently was there all the time) stood at the front of the house staring at the fire. He gets locked up for Arson and Attempt Murder and the mother and child are found in a neighbours house 30 minutes later alive and well.

Thats my one and only and last hopefully experience of a house fire.

Like I said Hat off ....Give me Fri and Sat night brawls any day

 

Our drunks are normally too drunk to be mean

 

last time I checked this was a free country so what reason does anybody have to arrest somebody for using a word swear words are only what you make them out to be they are only letters they are nothing important

 

But Carl, are you and others not arguing on another thread at this very moment that we should curtail peoples right to free speech?

http://www.ww2f.com/free-fire-zone/30362-poachers-heckled-3.html

 

Stefan, without making a long reply to a less than viable question--you KNOW exactly what we mean and im not going to join in on beating around the bush with you.

Ende.

 

Oh right, so you only want people to be able to say certain things, basically you define 'freedom of speech' as 'the freedom to say anything that doesn't offend me?'

Come on!

 

there is a question you need to ask yourself do we even have freedom anymore its as if the goverment takes it from people who need it and give it to themselves

 

To get back with the original reason for this thread and ignoring a Dwarfish attempt to derail the thread-(not meaning you Irusso-and most others here) what you said is exactly the point--just who is supposed to be the supreme person to choose what one can or cannot say? I say those cops went too far and arrested the guy-unless-as it was not told in the news story I heard it from--they did not elaborate if the guy was greatly raising his voice creating a viable disturbance-or if they merely overheard the guy being a jerk and using profanity to an employee of said Mexican Restaurant?

I think on alot of things there can be a fine line distinguishing between the two-while in other cases-it can be a wide distance between not crossing over the line and crossing over the line.

 

But Carl, this is precisely the point you are missing, who CAN be the supreme being who decides what you can or can't say? Simply put, no one can, whatever the circumstances. If they do your speech stops being free. To be free it CANNOT have limitations, if you put a limitation on it is not free simply by definition.

All you are saying is that the police drew the line in a different place to you, but the very fact the line was drawn breaks the right to free speech.

 

Well there's also laws about liable and defamation of character and such as well as copywrite infringment. There's also where you say it. I don't have to let you stand on my front porch for instance and shout insults at me or my friends.

In this case it sounds to me like the speach whas just part of the disorderly conduct. IE it wasn't just what he said but how he said it and what else he was doing at the time.

 

I think you may have hit the nail on the head. He was most likely "drunk in public" and the obscene language was simply an off-shoot and added to his problems.

 

Being drunk in public in the "F" word mans Arrest factor could possibly be part of it -but I do not know because the news station that reported the story-did not elaborate. In the least, he should have been kicked out of the restaurant. I wonder if he was complaining about the quality of food? I know people like that who eill order somthing, eat most of it-though nothing is wrong-then complain about the food so they can either get away with a free meal-or at least get the price for the meal greatly reduced. Yup-you might have guessed it already that the person I knew who routinely did this-is my friend Tom.