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I think white people got a little scared and voted...

Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Ben Dover, Nov 10, 2016.

  1. belasar

    belasar Court Jester Staff Member

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    In my former occupation I had to deal with this myself quite a bit. Our Golf Course sold considerable amounts of beer, especially on weekends. the TABC (Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission) policy was that you had employ the '10 year rule' where you carded anyone who 'looked' like they were within 10 year window of the legal drinking age in Texas (21).

    We were inspected about once every 2 or 3 years by a uniformed member of the commission you quizzed the employee on duty and checked our displayed permit, notices and paperwork.. Now a grocery or convenience store likely was checked every year if not more often.

    A couple of times I had to wade thru the regs and they were Byzantine depending upon what kind of venue you were.
     
  2. toki2

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    I have been travelling to Canada as a British citizen for 25 years and always needed a passport and this year also need to apply for an ETA (Electronic Travel Authorisation) online before travelling. The ETA was insisted upon by USA as part of a border control agreement so that none of our terrorists can slip into their country via Canada.
     
  3. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    You're still talking out of your ass.

    In some states? How about all states and the federal government?

    I see why I get so many reports about you. Maybe it is time I do something about it.
     
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  4. George Patton

    George Patton Canadian Refugee

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    My god. What incoherent babble. First it is not an ID, then it is an ID, then its not an ID again, and then it is an ID again.

    No.

    What's the next country? "Some countries" implies more than one.

    You're Belgian -- what countries outside of the Schengen Area can Belgians travel to without a passport?
     
  5. Takao

    Takao Ace

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  6. lwd

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    Indeed, Why do you keep posting it?

    Mildly interesting but completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

    Of course it can. There is no such thing as an unforgeable ID.

    Or not. Irrelevant in any case since we weren't talking about Belgian IDs.

    Wrong again. Your rational in support of your fallacious opinion is badly flawed as well. Not everyone has an ID and what is acceptable as an ID varies from place to place sometimes from establishment to establishment. At border crossings for instance passports are the preferred ID. Here in the US for some purposes a credit card is sufficient for an ID. Drivers licenses are probably the most common form of ID but obviously not every one has a drivers license. In any case it's quite clear that as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
  7. Brian Smith

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    They worry about Trump in the White House while there are people like you walking the streets? I know where my concerns would be focused and they are not on Trump
     
  8. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    "I have been travelling to Canada as a British citizen for 25 years" -Toki
    sniff, and you haven't even called.
     
  9. USMCPrice

    USMCPrice Idiot at Large

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    I think he's from Belgium, which only supports some restrictions on immigration.
     
  10. lwd

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    Addressing the mirror before replying to a post?

    That may be true in Belgium it's not true in the US. A passport is a valid form of ID in the US. It wouldn't allow you to vote here of course and wouldn't be needed for most medications. If you show up at a hospital ER room with a real emergency it wouldn't even be needed there. A drivers license is the most common form of ID in the US. Special ID cards can be obtained by those who don't have drivers licenses and some have ID's that are issued by their places of employment. The latter may or may not be valid IDs for other purposes. Businesses are often free to accept other ID for some purposes (credit cards often suffice).

    Again you prove the your inability to draw logical conclusions from even your often flawed assumptions. Not proving your identity at a polling station doesn't necessarily result in fraud although it does make it easier (other checks can be made to alleviate this by the way). It also has other potential side effects most of which prevent legitimate voters from voting.

    You use straw man arguments so often and have had it explained to you frequently enough that one would expect you to know what one is. Either you don't or you are deliberately misusing the term.

    The simplest response to this is ... Wrong!

    Since there has been no "persistent turning up of mass fraude(sic)" everything that follows is at best questionable. Of course given it's source it would be questionable in any case.

    It is most certainly not a straw man. You were claiming they weren't ID's. There's also no evidence that I've seen that they are "creating mass fraud".
    Wrong again. In the US a drivers license is a form of ID that proves you have the right to drive it also is used to prove who you are and there are some drivers licenses that act as limited passports for travel to Mexico and Canada. Not all countries or states are like Belgium.

    News flash for you. Drivers licenses are the only official IDs that most people in the US have (Birth certificats and Social security cards being useful for such in only a few very restricted cases).


    Can you link the request for voting only IDs? I've certainly not seen it. Drivers licenses are considered perfectly adequate ID's for traveling on commercial aircraft by the way although that isn't required it just makes things easier.
     
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    The SF conventions I attend often require everyone to show ID. I still get carded even though I'm obviously well over the drinking age. Plain clothes alcohol control inspectors are know to show up and check both events such as conventions and stores that sell alcohol. Individuals that look or are under age are occasionally used and try to procure the beverages under consideration. If they are able to the consequences for the business/organization are significant.
     
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    You said it wasn't a valid ID. It is. You were wrong.

    You did? Where? I just went through this thread and your post that I'm replying to is the first instance of that word that I could find.

    No surprise here but you're conclusions are at best unproven and are almost assuredly wrong on both counts. Not clear why "efficient" is now a big deal either.
    Or not. I've seen some very good reasons for it and no particularly strong arguments against it. So the ball is in your court as to any proof that early voting is bad much less "very bad".


    I guess you could make a case for checks to be the equivalent of medieval letters of credit. Don't see how that is a problem though much less how it is related to the topic at hand.

    Indeed they can also rob a bank both are illegal, what's your point? Is it the mythical "mass fraud" or is it another of your delusions?
     
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    Thanks now I am worried, just too close for comfort. Will be putting an extra bolt on the doors and windows tonight.
     
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    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Y'all have problems with Belgians in Britain these days? I thought that it was the mooselims that were running amok sharia-ing people on the streets.
     
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    Hey there, you damned Yankee. Lay off our womenfolk.

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    Not in general no, just one resident in particular.
     
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    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Ah, yes I can see that now. For a minute I was wondering "WTF!"
     
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    A-58 Cool Dude

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  19. Poppy

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    There were a lot of scared white people who voted.
    This is one. lena dunham
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  20. belasar

    belasar Court Jester Staff Member

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    Does she have to be native borne to run for Queen Empress of the Great White North?
     

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