Thanks Guys, I'll lokk into the veracity of the Fighter Command figures, though the author Norman Franks has written a number of WW1 & WW2 books and has a high reputation. The proble I see with the Luftwaffe cliams, is their inability to physically confirm victories when over Britain and behind Allied Lines. However, The Schwienfurt raids should have allowed them 100% ability to confirm them, and they still overclaimed by 50-100% My thoughts on the victories achieved! Marseille......About 70-80 Galland........About 80 Priller........About 90 Erich, you state many of Rollwage's kills are not confirmed, but the Luftwaffe records seem to credit them to him. (Likewise some of Galland's kills dont appear to be confirmed but are part of his score.) Through this, I dont mean to be picking on the Luftwaffe, ALL Pilots seemed to have overclaimed. I'm attacking the system which is said to have been perfect and the mythology which has surrounded them for 60 years.