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    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Like you saw, the gas pipes from Russia. They are cutting the gas and that means, as the whole central Europe is dependent on that gas, that Germany, France, Italy and perhaps Spain are in big trouble with no gas. Everything has dependent on Russian gas. Now it will be gone. Guns don´t replace energy. Our only hope is black winter that is that the winter is very mild or none at all.
    Ukraine will have to sue for peace if the rest of Europe don´t feed them, give energy or guns.
    I read today Russia has conquered Ukraine´s second biggest energy factory. This and the coming winter forces Ukraine make desperate moves. They shot rockets to cut the Russian bridge from southern Russia to Crimea. They are preparing for attack to Crimea and push the Russian troops to the Black sea. It´s all or nothing. Hoping for a miracle is not a choice here. You win or die.

    Finland bought Germany´s energy firm a year ago. It is working by gas. In January already we had to pay 9 billion euros compensation and just owning it due to higher gas prices we pay Germany 2-3 times the same amount for the losses in gas prices. Finland is sorta in a safe place as we don´t use gas warming our houses or keeping the factories in working condition.

    I think ypu will see like Ukraine has commented, in September there will be a massive assault against Russians in Donbass and Crimea. Every man and gun and ammo.

    In a way it´s funny that Finnish previous army commander said that Russia has so far won in Donbass 20x20 kms of land. in 5 months.

    And in Donbass Russia cannot use artillery, bombs or rockets because the locals are Russian citizens. They would kill their own civilians in masses.
     
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    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Ukraina has bombed the bridgess north of Crimea. Russia may not send troops, supplies or ammo above it. Ukraine is trying to push through by destroying the Russian troops above and then advancing to Crimea.
    Good luck. Some people said Ukraina attacked first. You are the same people that say Finland Started Winter War.
     
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    Pretty sure Ukraine and Finland started their wars with Russia. After all, they existed as soveriegn nations outside of Russian control. If that's not starting a war, I don't know what is...

    :p:D
     
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    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Russia admitted in 1991 they shot the Mainila shots themselves that begun the Winter War. Read your history books; sorry you were in Germany then . Or Spain..

    Idiots...
     
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    Sovereign nation. Are you kidding? The US is a sovereign nation outside Russia. Correct?
    Why are there hundreds of US troops practicing warfare :in the Finnish forest?
     
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    Ricky, UK? Age? Just asking are you ready to fight? If not, why?

    If Young enough, get your gun and smile
     
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    Too young or too Old?

    Why should we help a brexit country in war with Russia then? You wanted to go away. Would you ask for help? Or not? Just curious?
     
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    Kai,
    I think Ricky was trying to be funny by saying simply by being a sovereign country that was enough for Russia to claim they were attacked.
    At least I sure hope that was his intention. Russia and North Korea need to be slapped. I'll leave it at that.
     
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    USMCPrice Idiot at Large

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    Kai, Biak is correct. That is how I read Ricky's post as well.
     
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    You woud fight Russia until the end. Wth kids to nuclear night. Good night!!
     
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    Youre too late. The decision is made.
     
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    Then you and the US people die, too. Take it to to your kids.
    Fortunately Australia will be Saved. CAC soon back. Hear me?
     
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    Good call
     
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    On Finland I can say I am sorry if you learnt it meet of a "joke". Don't try again. And neither Ukraina. Anybody from the uk would say 1940 Blitz was a joke. Or shall I start???,.

    Winter war killed 200,000 russians and wounded 800,000. Laught at THAT . I know there are membres WHO say it's a lie. Wellcome back !!!!!!! You neded a Stalin in lead and Simo Häyhä expects You! I am angry angry angry! And I will soon tell. And Stalin was Grusian, not Russian.
     
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    You got a very little while to say you are sorry!
     
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    Chill Kai. We're all on the same side. Ricky was using sarcasm (the use of irony to mock or convey contempt) to mock the Russians. Sarcasm does not always translate well over the internet or if the person reading it/hearing it has a different primary language. There was no insult intended towards Ukraine or Finland. I'd venture to say most of us here admire and support Ukraine in its battle against Russia. I know that's my perspective, I admire and respect the Ukraine and its people for the courage and resolve they've shown.

    Ricky's comment: "Pretty sure Ukraine and Finland started their wars with Russia. After all, they existed as soveriegn nations outside of Russian control."
    He's saying all they did was exist as sovereign states outside Russia's control. They did nothing wrong. That was sufficient reason, in Russia's twisted mind to make war on those nations. It was an insult to Russia and all their excuses for why they do f*cked up things.

    Biak and I understood what he was saying because English is our native language, the nuance and true meaning apparently got lost in the translation.
     
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    Thar was it. End of time
     
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    I want apologize in 24 hrs or I l Leave it takes a lot to say sorry but more to say I accept. One chance only....I was watching Kenny Everett. Ns now it s Hell Bells. I am ready to say bye the to Otto. You know By whom! No negoation.
    Takeo will also day sorry for Russia attacking Ukraine or it is done.
     
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    USMCPrice Idiot at Large

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    No apology from me because no offence was intended towards you, Finland or the Ukraine. However, I don't want to see you leave, you've been here a long time, have contributed more posts than anyone, and I always considered you a friend. So, I'll go, you stay. Adios you all.
     
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    Otto Spambot Nemesis Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Hey Kai, easy big guy.

    Ricky is has strong historical knowledge and has some wit, two things I welcome here. Ricky was speaking ironically, and fairly plainly so to be honest. If the context wasn't clear, the two included smilies should have made it more clear.

    Leave stay, that's up to you, but quite frankly Ricky doesn't owe anyone an apology.
     
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