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Putting to Bed 9/11 Conspiracy Theories for Ever

Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Christopher47, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. KodiakBeer

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    Umm yeah, they sound every bit as reliable as Ganser.
     
  2. green slime

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    What on Earth is the relevance of "Operation Gladio" in Italy to 9/11?

    This is all incredibly loose postulation, with very little fact. The facts do not support Ganser's conclusions.There simply isn't enough of them to do so. There are multiple other possibilities.

    On one hand, we have the creation of stay-behind organisations. This is verified.

    On the other hand, we have a half-hearted attempt to connect these organisations to terror events across Europe, over a span of decades. Which is very far from verified, and yet altogether on a completely different scale and scope than 9/11.

    Considering the seriousness of the allegation, I'd have expected to see a lot more evidence, rather than a narrative of "alledgedly, supposedly, and could've".


    "Connecting the dots between terrorist organizations in NATO countries and a master plan centred in NATO's military headquarters requires a stretch of facts that Ganser cannot manage."
    -Lawrence Kaplan
     
  3. green slime

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    Considering the nature of the enemy NATO faced in the 1980's, the construction of these stay-behind organisations is completely understandable. What is questionable is how tenuous or connected they were to the CIA, and whose agenda they were following, as well as the tendancy of those assets to diverge, become corrupted, and abuse their positions.

    Soviet plans for terrorism were considerably worse:
    According to Lunev, a probable scenario in the event of war would be poisoning of the Potomac River with chemical or biological weapons, "targeting the residents of Washington DC". He also noted that it is "likely" that GRU operatives have placed already "poison supplies near the tributaries to major US reservoirs." This information was confirmed by Alexander Kouzminov, who was responsible for transporting dangerous pathogens from around the world for Russian program of biological weapons in the 1980s and the beginning of the 1990s. He described a variety of biological terrorism acts that would be carried out on the order of the Russian President in the event of hostilities, including poisoning public drinking-water supplies and food processing plants. At the end of the 1980s, the Soviet Union "was the only country in the world that could start and win a global biological war, something we had already established that the West was not ready for.", according to Kouzminov.
     
  4. lwd

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    Intersting.
    Bund posted in the follwoing post:

    Bundesluftwaffe, on 22 Apr 2015 - 2:00 PM, said:[​IMG]
    To which I replied:
    No answer but I note that his post has been edited and the two organizations expunged from the post. Kind of silly to try and hide an error rather than just admit it isn't it?
     
  5. Takao

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    Probably because the only answer to that question is - that it was beyond the scope of their investigation.
    http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/wtc_about.cfm

    Then again, we are talking about conspiracy theorists and, to them, insider trading has a lot to do with building design, construction, and safety.
     
  6. Bundesluftwaffe

    Bundesluftwaffe New Member

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    Here is another good one, but it is more than 5 hrs. (3 parts).... still people out there who believe the official 9/11 fairy tale ? Than this one might be for you :)
    Guess such people have no problem answering the questions in this massive docu :p


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk
     
  7. Bundesluftwaffe

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    Splitting hairs ? Everything in an investigation is important. Especially "Cui bono" and the insider trading was one of those "cui bonos"....
     
  8. Takao

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    Yeah! It is a good one. This stuff is abso-freaking-loutely hilarious! Who are the writers of this stuff? And why don't they have their own sit-com?

    They don't even wait two minutes before mentioning "Neo-Con". And, by the 3-minute mark...We get FDR and his "cronies" knew about the impending attack on Pearl Harbor. At which point, I terminated the stream, and moved onto something a little more rooted in sanity.
     
  9. Takao

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    Splitting hairs...How so? Other than to suit your own fantasy.

    How does insider trading enter into

    Looks like you have a lot of twisting to do to get the square peg into the round hole.
     
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  10. Poppy

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    Nobody here knows the exact story of 911. There are still redacted pages from the report which few people have read.
    Please, enlighten those who feel the 911 story is incomplete...
    Want to know exactly what role the Saudi's had in 911, then let the cards fall where they may...I for one would want retribution and compensation for those whose lives were effected.
    The chickens are coming home to roost in KSA... And the new ayatolla- oops- king, is currently throwing a hissy fit.
    Can see why Obama is trying to have better ties to Iran.
     
  11. chocapic

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    This
     
  12. Poppy

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    OBL needed money to complete the action. ..It is now apparent that 911 was funded by KSA money.
    Maybe Obama recognizes this, and now KSA has to deal with Isis/Iran etc.

    Release the redacted pages, let the world see KSA for what it is. Two faced, lying, backward dictators. KSA has a lot of karma to pay. ..Let it begin. Hopefully we can watch on TV, like they did to our terrorist disaster.

    While im here, MMGW global warming is such a threat that oil sells for 55 dollars a barrel. And Iranian/ Mid East blood/religion oil is going back on the market for the same price we sell our peace oil.
    Makes no sense at all.
     
  13. gtblackwell

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    It is perfectly clear to me, the Canadians are behind this. Their ultimate goal is to capture Detroit, Toledo and Cleveland. .......................ummmmmmmmmm and maybe Buffalo.
     
  14. Poppy

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    Canadians are notoriously mean after a cup of ice wine.
    Thanks for slapping me out of it.
    Everything is actually excellent. Everywhere and everybody. Perfect.
     
  15. Poppy

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    Did G just knudge me into a haiku?

    Love the G.

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    just trying to keep things rolling
     
  16. Takao

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    Must be 55 dollars(Canadian). In the States it is in the very low 40s...But, the media talking heads say that it will be some time for that to trickle down to the consumer.
     
  17. Poppy

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    Bronze (87octane) is about 1.10 CA here..Am ok with paying extra for gas as long as it goes into government taxes. If the gas companies are not reducing their profits according to market, then that is an issue.
    Harper needs to address this, as well as ask the US why they buy any mid east oil at all. That oil money funds terrorism. We can make our own blood /religion free oil here in the western hemisphere.
     
  18. A-58

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    They can have Detroit, and it's war if they try to give it back.
     
  19. Poppy

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    Also heard some story about a refinery being out of service somewhere in the States, as to why our prices are so high. Mmmhmm.
    We could build a refinery here, then pipe down to US...But noooo. Some sticky fingers in there.
    Obama has some 'splainin' to do.
    Terror oil, or good old North American oil, straight from mother earths nipple. Only birds die, no humans.
    It's kind of like Cecil the Lion tragedy.
     
  20. Poppy

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    Where did i see we supply aboot 40 percent of USA oil?
    A lot of that is oil sands, man. We don't just pump that stuff out of a hole.

    ME oil is all blood, repression and religion. People need to be informed in order to decide where to purchase their oil. Boycott Mid East Oil.
    Where does their oil profit money go? Try to follow it. 911 was one way...How do war factions fund themselves in a desert- oil profits. They aren't making sandals or cars.
     

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